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MikeG said:
Don't they have this fantasy about compasses not indicating direction properly, GPS being fakery, and that all voyages claiming to be in a straight line are actually curved? I'm buggered if I can see how they explain away the voyages of sailors around the globe.

Joshua Slocombe, the first to circumnavigate the globe solo, met Paul Kruger, president of South Africa, as he was nearing the end of his voyage. Kruger was a flat earther, who told Slocombe to his face that he was lying about his voyage, despite Slocombe having signed testimony from various mayors, prime ministers, harbourmasters, and so on that he had in fact been to the places he'd been. Where is the warp in the space time continuum* which means travelling continually east you don't end up A/ falling off the edge of the earth and B/ arriving back where you started?

* It's between the ears of flat earthers, the world's ultimate ignorami.
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It's not so much that there is something that makes them go in a circle, but rather the distance they'd have to travel.

If the FE's are right, then flying around the Southern 60th parallel would be a journey of 104,724 km.

If they are wrong, it would only be 20,945 km.

That's the difference of being able to fly it in a 777-200LR and taking just under a day, without having to land and refuel, and taking 5 days to fly it while having to land and refuel 4 times!
 
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PhantomWolf said:
It's not so much that there is something that makes them go in a circle, but rather the distance they'd have to travel.

If the FE's are right, then flying around the Southern 60th parallel would be a journey of 104,724 km.

If they are wrong, it would only be 20,945 km.

That's the difference of being able to fly it in a 777-200LR and taking just under a day, without having to land and refuel, and taking 5 days to fly it while having to land and refuel 4 times!
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This is one of the points that flatearthers never seem to want to address.

The distance from London to San Francisco is 8611 km and is flown in 11 hours 15 mins. The distance from Perth to Johannesburg is 8300 km and is flown in 10 hours 50 mins. They don't seem to be able to explain how this is possible given their flat "UN style" map.
 
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MikeG said:
Don't they have this fantasy about compasses not indicating direction properly, GPS being fakery, and that all voyages claiming to be in a straight line are actually curved? I'm buggered if I can see how they explain away the voyages of sailors around the globe.
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Can't they test a compass by themselves? Start at a spot, go in a direction, then go in the opposite and end up back where they were?
 
MikeG said:
Is there a map they actually agree on?
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No. There are several maps, all of which are rough guesses. This is super convenient, because it means they can jump to a different map as needed for the argument or even fall back on "Well I could answer that if I had an accurate map, but THEY won't let the truth out! It's not my fault, it's the conspiracy! So my ignorance is actually evidence!"
 
Let's end all of this 'Whistl'n Past the Graveyard' nonsense: Photographs/CGI/Outer Space ect ect.

The Earth is Flat...

Sea Sparrow (NATO):

"Bistatic, semiactive seekers in the nose of a missile receive a reflected signal from a target that is being “illuminated” with an RF signal transmitted from a fire control radar on a stand-off platform (e.g., aircraft, ship). Such systems REQUIRE that the platform maintain LINE OF SIGHT (LOS) the target until it is engaged by the missile. Ship-based standard missile (SM) and NATO Seasparrow AAW missiles are examples of such a semiactive mode."
http://m.eet.com/media/1111959/819_radar3.pdf

Range is MORE THAN 35 Miles. http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/evolved-sea-sparrow-missile-essm/
The target is "Illuminated" with a 2 inch Pencil Beam (RF) which has to be maintained "Painted" on the target until detonation. At a more than generous 80 Feet Elevation above Sea LEVEL (Tracking Radar Height), the target should be hidden behind 385 Feet of Curvature.

Please explain how you can have Line of Sight (LOS) 35 Miles Away on a "Spinning-Ball" by showing how an 2" RF Pencil Beam can penetrate 385 Feet (117 METERS) of Target Hidden Height through a WALL OF WATER 24 MILES in Length...??
(ps. 35 miles is "Low Balling": (The 'Official' Max Effective Range is Classified ---- i.e. it's MUCH MUCH greater than 35 Miles!).



All of the "images" of Earth are from "Space" i.e., Vacuum or Near Vacuum. Well there is No Vacuum or Near Vacuum...

1. How do you have a GAS PRESSURE (Atmospheric Pressure) WITHOUT a Container...TO BEGIN WITH?? When...

"The "PRESSURE OF A GAS" is the force that the gas exerts on the WALLS OF IT'S CONTAINER".
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/180pressure.html

Please, I can't wait to hear this Yarn...? :rolleyes:
Basically, explain how you can have a "Tire Pressure"...

WITHOUT THE TIRE !!! :boggled:

2. How can you have a Vacuum (Outer-Space) attached to a Non-Vacuum (Earth) WITHOUT a Physical Barrier in the same system simultaneously, without Bludgeoning to a Bloody Pulp... the Laws of Entropy (2LOT) ??

a. In other words, How are you still Breathing and adhering to your fairytale religion... BOTH, at the same time??

b. Then, Define the Law of Non-Contradiction...?

c. Then, please list each fairytale associated with "Outer-Space" that gets taken out back to the Woodshed and Bludgeoned Senseless as a result of the fairytale "Vacuum of Space" VAPORIZING....?

3. And, This is kinda fun...How in the World did the Earth Form an Atmosphere at all... "IN A VACUUM"?? From a big bang?? :rolleyes:

Have you ever heard: "Nature Abhors a Vacuum", by chance? Why is that...?


regards
 
Daniel said:
Let's end all of this 'Whistl'n Past the Graveyard' nonsense: Photographs/CGI/Outer Space ect ect.

The Earth is Flat...

Sea Sparrow (NATO):

"Bistatic, semiactive seekers in the nose of a missile receive a reflected signal from a target that is being “illuminated” with an RF signal transmitted from a fire control radar on a stand-off platform (e.g., aircraft, ship). Such systems REQUIRE that the platform maintain LINE OF SIGHT (LOS) the target until it is engaged by the missile. Ship-based standard missile (SM) and NATO Seasparrow AAW missiles are examples of such a semiactive mode."
http://m.eet.com/media/1111959/819_radar3.pdf

Range is MORE THAN 35 Miles. http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/evolved-sea-sparrow-missile-essm/
The target is "Illuminated" with a 2 inch Pencil Beam (RF) which has to be maintained "Painted" on the target until detonation. At a more than generous 80 Feet Elevation above Sea LEVEL (Tracking Radar Height), the target should be hidden behind 385 Feet of Curvature.

Please explain how you can have Line of Sight (LOS) 35 Miles Away on a "Spinning-Ball" by showing how an 2" RF Pencil Beam can penetrate 385 Feet (117 METERS) of Target Hidden Height through a WALL OF WATER 24 MILES in Length...??
(ps. 35 miles is "Low Balling": (The 'Official' Max Effective Range is Classified ---- i.e. it's MUCH MUCH greater than 35 Miles!).



All of the "images" of Earth are from "Space" i.e., Vacuum or Near Vacuum. Well there is No Vacuum or Near Vacuum...

1. How do you have a GAS PRESSURE (Atmospheric Pressure) WITHOUT a Container...TO BEGIN WITH?? When...

"The "PRESSURE OF A GAS" is the force that the gas exerts on the WALLS OF IT'S CONTAINER".
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/180pressure.html

Please, I can't wait to hear this Yarn...? :rolleyes:
Basically, explain how you can have a "Tire Pressure"...

WITHOUT THE TIRE !!! :boggled:

2. How can you have a Vacuum (Outer-Space) attached to a Non-Vacuum (Earth) WITHOUT a Physical Barrier in the same system simultaneously, without Bludgeoning to a Bloody Pulp... the Laws of Entropy (2LOT) ??

a. In other words, How are you still Breathing and adhering to your fairytale religion... BOTH, at the same time??

b. Then, Define the Law of Non-Contradiction...?

c. Then, please list each fairytale associated with "Outer-Space" that gets taken out back to the Woodshed and Bludgeoned Senseless as a result of the fairytale "Vacuum of Space" VAPORIZING....?

3. And, This is kinda fun...How in the World did the Earth Form an Atmosphere at all... "IN A VACUUM"?? From a big bang?? :rolleyes:

Have you ever heard: "Nature Abhors a Vacuum", by chance? Why is that...?


regards
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1. My favorite part was when you posted an article directly contradicting everything you just said.

2. Gravity.

How far is the horizon from the top of Everest again? :D
 
SOdhner said:
No. There are several maps, all of which are rough guesses. This is super convenient, because it means they can jump to a different map as needed for the argument or even fall back on "Well I could answer that if I had an accurate map, but THEY won't let the truth out! It's not my fault, it's the conspiracy! So my ignorance is actually evidence!"
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So all cartographers (and even Geography degree holders, since we all take at least one Cartography course) are in on it! Even me... oh well, I guess I can kiss that monthly payment from the sphericalist conspiracy HQ good-bye now that I've spilled the beans!
 
Daniel said:
Let's end all of this 'Whistl'n Past the Graveyard' nonsense: Photographs/CGI/Outer Space ect ect.

The Earth is Flat...

Sea Sparrow (NATO):

"Bistatic, semiactive seekers in the nose of a missile receive a reflected signal from a target that is being “illuminated” with an RF signal transmitted from a fire control radar on a stand-off platform (e.g., aircraft, ship). Such systems REQUIRE that the platform maintain LINE OF SIGHT (LOS) the target until it is engaged by the missile. Ship-based standard missile (SM) and NATO Seasparrow AAW missiles are examples of such a semiactive mode."
http://m.eet.com/media/1111959/819_radar3.pdf

Range is MORE THAN 35 Miles. http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/evolved-sea-sparrow-missile-essm/
The target is "Illuminated" with a 2 inch Pencil Beam (RF) which has to be maintained "Painted" on the target until detonation. At a more than generous 80 Feet Elevation above Sea LEVEL (Tracking Radar Height), the target should be hidden behind 385 Feet of Curvature.

Please explain how you can have Line of Sight (LOS) 35 Miles Away on a "Spinning-Ball" by showing how an 2" RF Pencil Beam can penetrate 385 Feet (117 METERS) of Target Hidden Height through a WALL OF WATER 24 MILES in Length...??
(ps. 35 miles is "Low Balling": (The 'Official' Max Effective Range is Classified ---- i.e. it's MUCH MUCH greater than 35 Miles!).



All of the "images" of Earth are from "Space" i.e., Vacuum or Near Vacuum. Well there is No Vacuum or Near Vacuum...

1. How do you have a GAS PRESSURE (Atmospheric Pressure) WITHOUT a Container...TO BEGIN WITH?? When...

"The "PRESSURE OF A GAS" is the force that the gas exerts on the WALLS OF IT'S CONTAINER".
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/180pressure.html

Please, I can't wait to hear this Yarn...? :rolleyes:
Basically, explain how you can have a "Tire Pressure"...

WITHOUT THE TIRE !!! :boggled:

2. How can you have a Vacuum (Outer-Space) attached to a Non-Vacuum (Earth) WITHOUT a Physical Barrier in the same system simultaneously, without Bludgeoning to a Bloody Pulp... the Laws of Entropy (2LOT) ??

a. In other words, How are you still Breathing and adhering to your fairytale religion... BOTH, at the same time??

b. Then, Define the Law of Non-Contradiction...?

c. Then, please list each fairytale associated with "Outer-Space" that gets taken out back to the Woodshed and Bludgeoned Senseless as a result of the fairytale "Vacuum of Space" VAPORIZING....?

3. And, This is kinda fun...How in the World did the Earth Form an Atmosphere at all... "IN A VACUUM"?? From a big bang?? :rolleyes:

Have you ever heard: "Nature Abhors a Vacuum", by chance? Why is that...?


regards
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Evolution?
 
Sea Sparrow are Anti Aircraft Missiles, they are fired at targets that are up in the air, above the surface.

Guidance system, Mid-course update datalink, Terminal semi-active radar homing for Block 1, dual semi-active/active radar homing for BLock 2.
Sea Sparrow uses Radar aboard the ship to 'paint' the target. Once it gets to close range the missile uses its own active sensors to track the target.
It is a short range 'point defence' system.


Do you think that the Navy know the earth is flat but pretend it's a globe?
 
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threadworm said:
All pretty heavily c&p from

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/212611-a-question-for-flat-earth-proponents/?page=2
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This one is a doozy

Since the Earth is, as we're TOLD, a Sphere 25,000 miles in circumference... radius 3959 miles, then Pilots traveling @ a typical cruising speed of 500 mph --- to simply maintain altitude, would constantly have to adjust their altitude downwards, (to Compensate for the Curvature) and descend 2,777 feet over half a mile every minute !!!
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Daniel said:
Sea Sparrow (NATO):

"Bistatic, semiactive seekers in the nose of a missile receive a reflected signal from a target that is being “illuminated” with an RF signal transmitted from a fire control radar on a stand-off platform (e.g., aircraft, ship). At a more than generous 80 Feet Elevation above Sea LEVEL (Tracking Radar Height), the target should be hidden behind 385 Feet of Curvature.

Please explain how you can have Line of Sight (LOS) 35 Miles Away
<bolding of "aircraft" and "80 feet" is mine>
<lots of nonsense that boils down to "Daniel doesn't understand gravity" snipped>
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I'm pretty sure the U.S navy has aircraft that can fly higher than 80 feet.
 
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Daniel said:
Sea Sparrow (NATO):
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A pretty awful example. Firstly, the Sea Sparrow is a medium range air-to-air missile kludged to provide a short range ship-to-air capability in response to a threat the USN hadn't envisaged. Secondly, its shipborne use is primarily at very short range; its 35+ mile theoretical range is a vestigial capability left over from its original air-to-air mission, where the horizon is typically much further away. And finally, the whole rationale for adopting the Sea Sparrow was to provide quick kills against sea-skimming missiles because they can approach to very close contact below the horizon; the original requirement for the Sea Sparrow is therefore derived from the curvature of the Earth.

Daniel said:
1. How do you have a GAS PRESSURE (Atmospheric Pressure) WITHOUT a Container...TO BEGIN WITH?? When...

"The "PRESSURE OF A GAS" is the force that the gas exerts on the WALLS OF IT'S CONTAINER".
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/180pressure.html

Please, I can't wait to hear this Yarn...? :rolleyes:
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That last statement is a barefaced lie; you actually refuse to hear the mechanism by which atmospheric pressure is able to exist, despite having it explained to you in detail in other threads.

Dave
 
The Big Dog said:
The earth is flat! We know that from GPS, which we derive from a series of satellites orbiting the... ummmm.... globe in.... errrr... space.

:thumbsup::D:thumbsup:
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My favorite (don't have a link) is a youtube video from somebody who found a bright blue rock, which he is convinced is piece of the firmament that a rocket or something chipped off when it hit.

Another, linked by a youtube commenter who claimed it was a devastating refutation of a spherical earth said that if the world was round, said that rivers would be running uphill. There were a number of other arguments in the video, all just about as dumb as that one. Makes sense, in the that you have to be geometrically retarded to be a flat earther.
 
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