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Michael Shermer vs. "alternative history" Hancock and Crandall

JesseCuster said:
Therefore it's ancient? It has something to do with ancient advanced agriculture? It has something to do with an ancient worldwide civilisation? :confused:

What the **** are you talking about? Do you even know what you're trying to argue here? You're just posting random **** that has nothing to do with anything and with no coherent argument behind it all.

Accepting for the sake of argument that the location is in fact abandoned, the fact that everything is in good working order is evidence that it was abandoned in the recent past. So what exactly has it got to do with anything?
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Grid gardens are ancient, global, and represent advanced agriculture. I have found them re-occupied everywhere on land, as well as submerged off shore.

Yes, I have stated my thesis, and now I am gathering data.

All of the other similar 'ruins' I have found of this nature are not in their original state. Most are shards of their former selves, remnants, if that. Roofs are always missing, and most houses are incomplete at best. This place looks perfect...!
 
King of the Americas said:
There is no sign of recent human activity...

No cars, animals, people, paths...nothing.

And YES, everything looks in working order:
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Why should anyone accept your photo analysis WRT recent human activity? You can't even defend your claim of 'guild posts' [sic] on the floor of the Pacific between Easter Island and South America.

And no, I'm not going to do your homework, or accept your burden of proof. It's not going to happen.

Try something new. Your humor value is diminishing rather quickly.
 
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King of the Americas said:
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Again, I don't know when this place was built, but it has the same grid gardens I have found the world over:
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Fascinating. There is evidence that human civilizations the world over have gardened? Have you contacted professors at your university with this world-shaking evidence? They'll be shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you!
 
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King of the Americas said:
There's NOTHING that is evidence of human activity...
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Did the cows build the walls and the sheep measure the straight lines of the land enclosures?

Did it occur to you for a nanosecond that the fields are currently cultivated and that's why they are homogeneous colours? :D

Aerial archaeology is the study of archaeological remains by examining them from altitude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_archaeology
 
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King of the Americas said:
Grid gardens are ancient, global, and represent advanced agriculture. I have found them re-occupied everywhere on land, as well as submerged off shore.

Yes, I have stated my thesis, and now I am gathering data.

All of the other similar 'ruins' I have found of this nature are not in their original state. Most are shards of their former selves, remnants, if that. Roofs are always missing, and most houses are incomplete at best. This place looks perfect...!
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Doesn't that tell you that it isn't 12000 years old then? Houses with roofs? Intact boundary walls? not overgrown with trees or scrub?
 
John Jones said:
Fascinating. There is evidence that human civilizations the world over have gardened? Have you contacted professors at your university with this world-shaking evidence? They'll be shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you!
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Yes, these "grid gardens" are shockingly massive...

Can you see the Google Earth ruler numbers, here:

1200 yards by 2400 yards. So, you may cease with the "everyone gardens" lines...

We don't garden like they used to...even with modern machinery, we can only manage part of their fields.
 
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King of the Americas said:
Sorry, here, you dropped your mirror.
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You haven't provided any evidence for your assumptions about the dating...

You have asserted that:
- the structures you have identified are too large, but not supported that
-you couldn't see people in a picture, but that in no way points to an age in the thousands of years.

Nothing of substance.
 
Porpoise of Life said:
You haven't provided any evidence for your assumptions about the dating...

You have asserted that:
- the structures you have identified are too large, but not supported that
-you couldn't see people in a picture, but that in no way points to an age in the thousands of years.

Nothing of substance.
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So, pictures of grid gardens underwater AREN'T evidence that these patterns pre-date the last major ocean level rise???

What evidence would???????
 
King of the Americas said:
STOP...PLEASE...I BEG OF YOU!?!?

I NEVER SAID THESE RUINS WERE 12,000 YEARS OLD!!!
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You have claimed in the past that there was a global Atlantean civilisation that disappeared about 12000 years ago.
You are now claiming that modern agricultural fields are actually remnants of this society.

Pray tell, what is the youngest possible age for these fields if they are supposed to be evidence of a culture that vanished 12000 years ago?

If your claim is that these structures are actually evidence of a different prehistoric technologically advanced society, then please give us your timeline.
 
Porpoise of Life said:
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If your claim is that these structures are actually evidence of a different prehistoric technologically advanced society, then please give us your timeline.
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I DON'T KNOW YET!

HOWEVER...since I've posted many images now underwater, I'd say THAT is evidence that these designs pre-date the last ocean level rise.
 
Pictures of rock formations and digital artefacts?

You keep moving the goalposts every time you're asked to support your claims.
You can't provide a date for the pictures of (apparently completely modern) fields, so you move to the next unsupported assertion.

Will you provide evidence for this one? Evidence that these squiggles are fields, and that they were above sea level once, and when?
 
What is the depth of ocean at the places you are claiming to be underwater fields?

Maybe they belong to Spongebob or even the Aquaphibians.
 
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