Obama ruins the internet

PhantomWolf said:
Netscape continued on to v9 which stopped being supported in 2009, 8 years after the case. It also in part lives on in Firefox.
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It's worse than that. A bit of Netscape (JavaScript) lives on in every modern browser. If only the government had kept it's nose out of it we might not have been subjected to this abomination.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
Does your contract say you have to have 30mbps from Netflix specifically?
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My plan gives me a download and an upload rate that the fibre connection runs at. If they slowed it down deliberately for specific sites then they wouldn't be providing those rates.
 
Cleon said:
Fun fact: Ajit Pai is an Obama appointee.
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I believe he was told to make this decision. Likely, he was told to make this decision when he was appointed to the chair by the Hair.
 
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PhantomWolf said:
My plan gives me a download and an upload rate that the fibre connection runs at. If they slowed it down deliberately for specific sites then they wouldn't be providing those rates.
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Yes, that much bandwidth/throughput is still available to use for other tasks.

Your contract does not specify or guarantee one single bit of data and most certainly not from any specific source. You are promised (theoretical) capacity only.

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Delphic Oracle said:
Yes, that much bandwidth/throughput is still available to use for other tasks.

Your contract does not specify or guarantee one single bit of data and most certainly not from any specific source. You are promised (theoretical) capacity only.
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Are you arguing that network neutrality is good or bad?
 
Upchurch said:
Are you arguing that network neutrality is good or bad?
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I'm arguing that a specified maximum data rate on a connection is not a minimum data rate guarantee, and certainly not from specific sources.

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Delphic Oracle said:
I'm arguing that a specified maximum data rate on a connection is not a minimum data rate guarantee, and certainly not from specific sources.
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I don’t think anyone was arguing that ISPs were incapable of violating network neutrality. The question is whether they should be allowed to.
 
Upchurch said:
I don’t think anyone was arguing that ISPs were incapable of violating network neutrality. The question is whether they should be allowed to.
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It was suggested they are contractually bound to deliver content to users. I offered corrections to that mistaken notion.

I'm sorry you're wrestling so much with it.

If you feel I'm off topic, there's a very highly respected process (lol) for that.

Repeatedly failing to grasp my point is not that process.

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thaiboxerken said:
I believe he was told to make this decision. Likely, he was told to make this decision when he was appointed to the chair by the Hair.
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Other way around, actually. The FCC, influenced by people like Pai, were trying to move away from NN years ago - Google, FB, and other internet companies pressured the Obama administration to enact NN rules at the FCC.

Pai has been anti-NN since he worked as a Verizon lawyer. Don't let partisan politics fool you.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Except they didn't kill it, Netscape continued on to v9 which stopped being supported in 2009, 8 years after the case. It also in part lives on in Firefox.
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After Microsoft used it's monopoly position to illegally give away it's competing product, Netscape's browser division shrank to a tiny percentage of what it had been, and it never recovered. The non-profit Mozilla foundation was spun off from Netscape because Netscape knew it would never again be a viable for-profit browser vendor of the size it needed to be with the revue from selling its browser to business users.
 
Cleon said:
Other way around, actually. The FCC, influenced by people like Pai, were trying to move away from NN years ago - Google, FB, and other internet companies pressured the Obama administration to enact NN rules at the FCC.

Pai has been anti-NN since he worked as a Verizon lawyer. Don't let partisan politics fool you.
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Also, Obama nominated Pai on the recommendation of Mitch McConnell, back when Obama mistakenly thought there was some path to bipartisanship.
 
paulhutch said:
After Microsoft used it's monopoly position to illegally give away it's competing product, Netscape's browser division shrank to a tiny percentage of what it had been, and it never recovered.
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The fact that the later Netscape versions were crap didn't help, either. I switched to IE for that reason.
 
Cleon said:
Other way around, actually. The FCC, influenced by people like Pai, were trying to move away from NN years ago - Google, FB, and other internet companies pressured the Obama administration to enact NN rules at the FCC.

Pai has been anti-NN since he worked as a Verizon lawyer. Don't let partisan politics fool you.
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He's still acting in the best interest of Republican's religion of deregulating everything.
 
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