Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny

Yep. Partisan politics at its best. "Let me explain in three thousand words why your jaywalker is worse than my jaywalker".
 
theprestige said:
Why are progs so excited about Franken submitting to the ethics committee of an organization that pays out millions of dollars in secret harassment claims on behalf of its members?

"Hey! You've been molesting the chickens! What do you have to say for yourself?"

"I humbly place my fate in the hands of the foxes that run this henhouse."
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1) Contrast that to Trump and Moore, who ignore/belittle/attack their accusers.

2) What body should he submit himself to for judgment. No criminal or civil charges have been filed.
 
theprestige said:
But technically correct is the best kind of correct! We must defend Senator Franken's good reputation in the face of his miming a groping action on an unconsenting woman!
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Testify, brother! It's so good to see you lining up on the side of feminism, finally. It took having the opportunity to attack a liberal to do it, but it's progress! We'll win you people 'round after all.

Men are dawgs! (God help me, the MRAs will be along.) Men behaving badly in concert with other men behaving badly and their mousy female enablers is a constant in society since I can remember.

We don't really care. We're just here for the political points, after all.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Testify, brother! It's so good to see you lining up on the side of feminism, finally. It took having the opportunity to attack a liberal to do it, but it's progress! We'll win you people 'round after all.

Men are dawgs! (God help me, the MRAs will be along.) Men behaving badly in concert with other men behaving badly and their mousy female enablers is a constant in society since I can remember.

We don't really care. We're just here for the political points, after all.
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Surprise, another personal attack.
 
I absolutely don't condone Franken's behavior. He should absolutely suffer some consequence. That said, let's not compare oranges to apples. There is a difference between admitting wrong doing, apologizing and supporting an ethics investigation into one's self and what Moore did. Has Franken been banned from the Mall of the Americas for hitting on high school girls?

If the investigation comes up with worse behavior (I'll note the victim in this case has pointedly not called for his removal from the Senate, rather the opposite) with more women, then he should be removed from the Senate.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Well are we sure the latter isn't valid? I took Franken at his word, being sorry if he was misinterpreted or not, he took responsibility for causing the misinterpretation.

That's a tad different from some of the apologies as of late like Trump's non-apology apologies, "I'm sorry you are sorry."
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You're right that he did accept responsibility, but it rings hollow to me. And that's my completely subjective opinion, so asking me to defend it objectively is probably not going to help. I don't know that he "gets it"; on the other hand I'm not sure what that would look like, either.
 
Craig4 said:
I absolutely don't condone Franken's behavior. He should absolutely suffer some consequence. That said, let's not compare oranges to apples. There is a difference between admitting wrong doing, apologizing and supporting an ethics investigation into one's self and what Moore did. Has Franken been banned from the Mall of the Americas for hitting on high school girls?

If the investigation comes up with worse behavior (I'll note the victim in this case has pointedly not called for his removal from the Senate, rather the opposite) with more women, then he should be removed from the Senate.
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It’s a lie.
https://www.snopes.com/2017/11/17/roy-moore-banned-mall-harassing-teen-girls/
 
logger said:
Surprise, another personal attack.
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The ironic thing is he is complaining about partisan politics and scoring political points, and there is zero percent chance he will direct that snarky nonsense at people defending the groper.
 
The Big Dog said:
Describing the effect of posting the accuser's history and posting her "NSFW" pictures is not in any way shape or form strawman.
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What effect? Have the pictures altered anyone's opinion as to her credibility? The only effect I have seen of it is that you have carried on with this one horse stage show for 9 pages now instead of joining in with the rest of the conversation. All you have done in the last nine pages is scream "slut shaming".

Do you think that the NSFW photos damage her credibility? Does anyone here? If not, then why are you still going on about this after other 450 posts in this thread. Seems that the one with the issue here might be you because you are the one that keeps bring it up.
 
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