Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny

RecoveringYuppy said:
IMO Franken has confirmed enough of her story for me to consider this episode to still be a major problem. Even if I ignore the parts that can't be corroborated and/or that he disputes there is still a major problem.
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It sure doesn't look good on him. It's pretty insane the amount of accusations that have popped up since the Weinstein affair began. Hopefully innocent defenders (if there are any) won't be ruined by these accusations, but it sure is not encouraging to see all these events come to light.
 
TheL8Elvis said:
Ostensibly, the only reason she was there was she was a hot model.

When someone is in the business of selling themselves and their sexuality, someone else taking a crass photo of pretending to grab said persons breasts doesn't seem as egregious as other circumstances. I can easily see it having been a running gag, or something similar during the tour.

Again, this isn't meant to be in the context of "therefor she deserved it" - it's meant to be in the context of how adults on a tour might be expected to interact with one another, based on who they are and what they are there for.

Was it a funny picture ? Not to me as it is, not with no other context. And Franken would probably only dig himself deeper trying to explain one.

Let me also clarify this was about the picture - that we can all see and agree on. The kiss was wrong if it happened they way tweeden described it. But franken does seem to disagree it happened that way. And her political background, which I also posted, gives reason for pause on taking her story at face value with no questioning motives.
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To quote my favourite Bunnygirl;
"You don't know how hard it is being a woman looking the way I do... I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."

It is not my fault I'm a hot blonde with big boobs*, but that does not give you permission to shout comments across the street, squeeze up against me in lifts, or think that it is humorous to cop a handful. if I show cleavage then I'm a flirt, if I don't I am a prude. It is not an easy life being a beautiful woman.

OK there are certain job opportunities open to me that may not be open to others, but seeing my photo in a magazine is not consent to assault.

*In my dreams - I'm probably the anti-particle, bring me in to contact with a hot big boobed blonde and there would be a big bang!
 
Franken shoud announce his retirement after his current term ends at a minimum.
First person who tries to let Franken off the hook because he is on "Our" side I will treat just like I treat the idiots who are supporting Moore. Granted, what Moore did was worse then what Franken did ,but that is no excuse.
 
Since being accused of sexual misconduct is now apparently grounds for elected officials to step down, does that mean Trump goes too?
 
And I don't like the guy, but Pence's policy of not being alone with a women other then his wife seems to have been a smart move on his part....
 
I guess some other broad is asserting that he "harassed" her too, by making phone calls to her quibbling over a budget issue.
 
Argumemnon said:
It sure doesn't look good on him. It's pretty insane the amount of accusations that have popped up since the Weinstein affair began. Hopefully innocent defenders (if there are any) won't be ruined by these accusations, but it sure is not encouraging to see all these events come to light.
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What, do you want women to keep hiding in the shadows? I'm completely encouraged by this. Perhaps Trump was a blessing in disguise.
 
Argumemnon said:
Seems like we've done rather well so far, all things considered. Sure, some people are asshats, some are incompetent, some are stupid... but I fail to see your dystopian present.
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Let's see, Trump President, Climate Change rolling along, trillions spent on stupid wars, millions going without health insurance, worse drug epidemic in country's history...

Sounds pretty dystopian to me.
 
Fudbucker said:
Let's see, Trump President, Climate Change rolling along, trillions spent on stupid wars, millions going without health insurance, worse drug epidemic in country's history...

Sounds pretty dystopian to me.
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What does any of that have to do with males? Are women more likely to cut down on their spending, electricity usage or lifestyles to curb global warming?
 
dudalb said:
And I don't like the guy, but Pence's policy of not being alone with a women other then his wife seems to have been a smart move on his part....
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And making sure to keep the careers of women in their proper place.

Though seriously, being not alone does not exactly stop these people. See the women groped on the floor of the house.
 
The accusations should be investigated first.

If the result is that the accusations are accurate, then disciplinary action should be taken, up to and including removal from office of Moore, Franken, Trump, or whoever.

Taking severe disciplinary action from accusations alone is just never going to be a good policy, imo.
 
Argumemnon said:
What does any of that have to do with males? Are women more likely to cut down on their spending, electricity usage or lifestyles to curb global warming?
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I think women are less likely to get involved in wars, yes. I think they also might be better at coming together to form a consensus when it comes to issues like health care, environment, etc.
 
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