Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny

Argumemnon said:
Speaking as a man, I don't see the appeal.
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You say a lot of ambiguous things. Can you clarify? Do you mean "She's not pretty enough to assault" which was my first thought. A second later I realized you could also mean "I don't understand the attraction of sex with nonconsenting women". So what are you saying here?
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
You say a lot of ambiguous things. Can you clarify? Do you mean "She's not pretty enough to assault" which was my first thought. A second later I realized you could also mean "I don't understand the attraction of sex with nonconsenting women". So what are you saying here?
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I don't understand the appeal of doing the thing LTC8K6 was describing. In fact, that's exactly what I said in the post you quoted.

I think the reason why you think I'm often ambiguous is that you're trying too hard to find hidden meanings in what I say.
 
Argumemnon said:
I don't understand the appeal of doing the thing LTC8K6 was describing. In fact, that's exactly what I said in the post you quoted.

I think the reason why you think I'm often ambiguous is that you're trying too hard to find hidden meanings in what I say.
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That doesn't help. I'm asking WHY you don't understand the appeal. And now starting to wonder if you're ducking the question.
 
TheL8Elvis said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeann_Tweeden

She has also appeared on the political discussion series Hannity, as a member of the "Great American Panel" and occasionally appeared on the panel of Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld.[4]

In 1996, Tweeden appeared non-nude in a fitness model pictorial for Playboy magazine. Fifteen years later, at 38 years old, she appeared again in the December, 2011 issue of Playboy, this time posing in a nude pictorial. IIn 2002, she was a guest character in the motocross video game Freekstyle as a motocross rider. The March 2007 Issue of FHM (which was the final printed US issue) featured Tweeden as the cover girl.[5] As part of Hooters' 25th anniversary in 2008, she was named among "The Top Hooters Girls of all time".[6]

More context.
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She had it coming! Did you see how she was dressed?
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
That doesn't help. I'm asking WHY you don't understand the appeal.
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Do you also need me to explain to you WHY I don't understand the appeal of broccoli?

What exactly is the problem, here? I don't understand the appeal. What else can I possibly say about this? :rolleyes:

And now starting to wonder if you're ducking the question.
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And I'm starting to think that you have a specific beef with me. No one else seems confused by my post. Go pick on someone else.
 
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TheL8Elvis said:
Context doesn't matter in your world ?
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In what way do you think your post informs the debate? What changes, in your interpretation of the situation, in light of the 'context' you've provided?
 
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Get this bit from Franken's famous joke about raping Lesley Stahl:

Franken: “And, ‘I give the pills to Lesley Stahl. Then, when Lesley’s passed out, I take her to the closet and rape her.’ Or, ‘That’s why you never see Lesley until February.’ Or, ‘When she passes out, I put her in various positions and take pictures of her.’”
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Sounds like we've identified Franken's kink--he likes to take pictures of himself doing things to women who are sleeping or passed out. Just a little bit more context.
 
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Congresswoman Jackie Speier announced yesterday that Congress has had a taxpayer provided sexual harassment fund in place and the fund has paid out $15 million dollars over the last 10-15 years to settle claims against Congress members. Those who were paid off agreed to a non-disclosure clause, meaning no names of those accused will be made public. More of our tax dollars going to a great cause!
 
This is the direct result of electing a pile of **** like Donald Trump president. Did perpetrators of sexual assault and molestation think women were going to keep silent forever?

Yea, right. Time for that seismic shift in our culture.
 
Argumemnon said:
Do you also need me to explain to you WHY I don't understand the appeal of broccoli?

What exactly is the problem, here? I don't understand the appeal. What else can I possibly say about this? :rolleyes:.
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I gave you two possible choices of ways you could clarify this. Since you don't seem to want to do that I'll just point out that it is horrible to imply that only attractive should be molested. Or, the corollary, that attractive women deserve to be molested.
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
I gave you two possible choices of ways you could clarify this.
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I DID CLARIFY. I told you that I can't understand the appeal of the actions described by the other poster. YOU ARE THE ONE adding meaning to it, in a very vile way, I might add:

I'll just point out that it is horrible to imply that only attractive should be molested. Or, the corollary, that attractive women deserve to be molested.
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It would be quite an understatement of me to say that you're using the uttermost least charitable reading of my post. Instead, you seem to be on a mission to smear me without reason. Never have I said or implied any of these things, and your post borders on libel. Take it back. Now.
 
3point14 said:
In what way do you think your post informs the debate? What changes, in your interpretation of the situation, in light of the 'context' you've provided?
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Whether the "victim" is sincere or making political hay.

I'll point out again, she brought up in the article:
"As a TV host and sports broadcaster, as well as a model familiar to the audience from the covers of FHM, Maxim and Playboy, ...."

If it's not important to context, why did she bring it up ?
 
Argumemnon said:
I DID CLARIFY. I told you that I can't understand the appeal of the actions described by the other poster. YOU ARE THE ONE adding meaning to it, in a very vile way, I might add:



It would be quite an understatement of me to say that you're using the uttermost least charitable reading of my post. Instead, you seem to be on a mission to smear me without reason. Never have I said or implied any of these things, and your post borders on libel. Take it back. Now.
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Or ?
 
TheL8Elvis said:
Whether the "victim" is sincere or making political hay.

I'll point out again, she brought up in the article:
"As a TV host and sports broadcaster, as well as a model familiar to the audience from the covers of FHM, Maxim and Playboy, ...."

If it's not important to context, why did she bring it up ?
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Maybe for no good reason. It still doesn't tell us anything more about the incident.
 
This women may be a Fox-bot, but that photo corroborates her story.

Franken should resign, or at least address the allegation in a more meaningful way. His lame rationalization reads like a guilty person trying to find the middle ground between not admitting guilt and not calling the accuser a liar.

Also, good to see our forum conservatives finally remember they find sexual assault distasteful.
 
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