Split Thread Scorpion's Spiritualism

[Porpoise of Life]

Just looking at that little gem of wisdom to the bottom of your post:

You know of course that the stars can be observed during the day using a telescope ..... don't you?

That is what makes this such a poor analogy. Can you show me a god or gods using some equipment or technique?

Plus, for this analogy to be correct, God would have to be obscured by something bigger and more powerful. And, of course... show up at all, which he never does.

You're welcome. The biggest thing to be aware of is that "f" and "s" are interchangeable.

Useless nitpick: The long s (ſ) used at at the beginning or in the middle of words, while the one we're familiar was was only used at the end of words. It does look confusingly like an f without the horizontal stroke.
That, or perhapf people all ufed to poffeff a lifp becaufe of poor dental care.

 

[Myriad]

We do not normally remember being in the spirit world between lives because we have only the brains memory from birth. Memory of past lives would entail being conscious of the memories stored in the spirit body.

And does that ever happen?

If not, then past-life memories should not be possible, and any accounts of such must be false.

If it does happen, then why are there so few if any accounts of spirit-life memories?

 

[Scorpion]

And does that ever happen?

If not, then past-life memories should not be possible, and any accounts of such must be false.

If it does happen, then why are there so few if any accounts of spirit-life memories?

It is reputed that the Dali Lama could recognise his food bowl and other items from his past life, and he picked the out the right one from a selection of bowls.

If it does happen people remember past lives, it is clearly a rare event.

 

[abaddon]

It is reputed that the Dali Lama could recognise his food bowl and other items from his past life, and he picked the out the right one from a selection of bowls.

If it does happen people remember past lives, it is clearly a rare event.

Which Dali Lama?

 

[Scorpion]

Which Dali Lama?

The 14th Dalai Lama, the one on twitter.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

It is reputed that the Dali Lama could recognise his food bowl and other items from his past life, and he picked the out the right one from a selection of bowls.

If it does happen people remember past lives, it is clearly a rare event.

The question asked was whether people remember spirit lives.

 

[abaddon]

The 14th Dalai Lama, the one on twitter.

And you are aware that the 14th Dalai Lama has suggested that the rank be abolished, right?

 

[Porpoise of Life]

And you are aware that the 14th Dalai Lama has suggested that the rank be abolished, right?

Weird, right? It's almost as if his vast spirit powers to reincarnate anywhere he chooses and make his spiritual identity known by magically signaling his monks who will seek him out and have him take tests only the true Dalai Lama could pass, are no match for Chinese political machinations.

 

[Thor 2]

Lets give the man a little poetic licence. he had probably never even seen a telescope.

Possibly. Where he lived in India probably not so common.

May we assume this guy holds a certain place of respect for you, given that you quote him?

From a brief description of the life of Ramakrishna Parmahamsa:

As a young man, he was artistic and a popular storyteller and actor. His parents were religious, and prone to visions and spiritual dreams. Ramakrishna's father had a vision of the god Gadadhara (Vishnu) while on a religious pilgrimage. In the vision, the god told him that he would be born into the family as a son.

Seeing visions seems to run in the family. That part about the god, telling his father he would get a son, has a familiar ring to it.

Is the god Gadadhara one that you hold dear? If so do you believe in multiple gods or one god with multiple names?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Which Dali Lama?

The same one of course

 

[P.J. Denyer]

The same one of course

One Dali Lama
There's only one Dali Lama
One Dali Laaaa Maaa
There's only one Dali Lama

 

[The Shrike]

I threw out a series of books by White Eagle lodge because a book said there were people on Mars, . . .

Are these different from the books you earlier claimed to have sold?

 

[Gamolon]

Are these different from the books you earlier claimed to have sold?

I was told here that human memory is flawed and that is why I think I remember some things, but for me that is just flim flam, and an attempt to sweep my experiences aside.

October 19th, 2017:

On reading this I promptly sold all my White Eagle books.

Then, 20 days later on November 8th, 2017:

I threw out a series of books by White Eagle lodge

You present memories to people here and expect them to take them as truth, yet your memory of what you did with your books changed within a 20 day span?

 

[Gamolon]

The 14th Dalai Lama, the one on twitter.

Scorpion,

I have some questions for you based on various quotes throughout this thread.

It probably will eventually choose to reincarnate again because that is how we evolve.

So a soul/spirit will choose when to reincarnate.

All this is administrated by the angels of karma who determine what is best for us from behind the scenes. They guide us to an incarnation that suits or spiritual needs, even if the life is hard. The angels know its for our ultimate good, so they are indifferent to our sufferings.

So the angels of karma guide our spirits/souls to an incarnation and THEN then the spirits/souls choose to incarnate. Tell me Scorpion, what angel of karma would have guided a spirit/soul to incarnate into the life of Hitler? What spiritual needs could possibly have been met by living Hitler's life?

The angels of karma determine what we deserve and send us into lives where we reap what we have sowed.

What, in your opinion, did the spirit/soul reap in a previous life that the angels of karma guided it to the Hitler incarnation and the spirit/soul chose to incarnate into it figuring that it woud make them a better spirit/soul in the future?

We may agree to that before the incarnation, because in the end we are our own judges.

Why would a spirit/soul agree to have incarnated into Hilter's forthcoming life when there were so many other, better lives that would have helped it take a quicker path toward total enlightenment?

Evil acts have consequences that can echo on over many lives, so they are hardly the right thing to do. Everything we do has to be accounted for.

Again. Why would a spirit/soul choose to have reincarnated as Hitler knowing that their deeds will be accounted for?

Yes it's a different part of ourselves that reincarnates. It does not remember past incarnations,

Then how does a spirit/soul decide when to incarnate? What is this decision to incarnate based on?

We may have qualities like being stronger, wiser, more compassionate beings because of previous lives.

If spirits/souls are striving to be better at every incarnation, then what the hell kind of spirit/soul was the one that was guided to and then chose to incarnate as Hitler in it's previous life?!

So we carry over what we have learned in past lives as latent characteristics of the new life.

Again, what kind of atrocities did the spirit/soul perform that made the angels of karma and the spirit itself think that choosing to incarnate into Hitler's would be an improvement over it's past life?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Again, what kind of atrocities did the spirit/soul perform that made the angels of karma and the spirit itself think that choosing to incarnate into Hitler's would be an improvement over it's past life?

Inventor of Pop Tarts?

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

October 19th, 2017:


Then, 20 days later on November 8th, 2017:


You present memories to people here and expect them to take them as truth, yet your memory of what you did with your books changed within a 20 day span?

In this as yet unanswered post I noted how even his story on what telepathic abilities he had has changed - also in a relatively short period of time.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

On the one hand, this should not be a game of “gotcha”.

On the other hand, what a sublime example of the fallibility of human memory.

 

[Scorpion]

October 19th, 2017:


Then, 20 days later on November 8th, 2017:


You present memories to people here and expect them to take them as truth, yet your memory of what you did with your books changed within a 20 day span?

You people are just nit picking words. I sold the books and I have no doubt about that, but I said I threw them out instead and people want to make an issue out of it. But I meant the same thing. I got rid of them.

 

[Scorpion]

Gamolon,
According to the spirit guides, after death we assimilate our life experiences and live in the spirit world for some time. That time can vary from a short time to thousands of years. But eventually the soul may realize it cannot progress without reincarnation. Then the angels of karma arrange our next incarnation.

As for all the questions about Hitler, you might as well ask why anyone reincarnates, as there are many people who incarnate, and do bad rather than good things.
This world is a meeting ground for the evolved and the unevolved and we learn by our interactions with one another. I daresay the angels of karma could see what Hitler would do but he could not. The angels of karma allow humans to act badly but it is all accountable. Hitler thought it was his destiny to do what he did and so did Churchill.
They may both have been right.

 

[Gamolon]

Gamolon,
According to the spirit guides, after death we assimilate our life experiences and live in the spirit world for some time. That time can vary from a short time to thousands of years. But eventually the soul realizes it cannot progress without reincarnation. Then the angels of karma arrange our next incarnation.

As for all the questions about Hitler, you might as well ask why anyone reincarnates, as there are many people who incarnate, and do bad rather than good things.
This world is a meeting ground for the evolved and the unevolved and we learn by our interactions with one another. I daresay the angels of karma could see what Hitler would do but he could not. The angels of karma allow humans to act badly but it is all accountable. Hitler thought it was his destiny to do what he did and so did Churchill.
They may both have been right.

You're not answering my questions Scorpion.

You stated that angels of karma guide spirits/souls to a particular incarnation based on spiritual needs of that particular spirit/soul. What spiritual needs, in your opinion, would Hitler's life have satisfied? You are saying that the angels of karma KNOW ahead of time about the incarnations that a soul or spirit is being guided to.

You are also alluding to the fact that spirits/souls CHOOSE when to incarnate into a particular life. What, in your opinion, is the spirit/soul basing its choice on as to whether or not to incarnate into a particular life? Also, if each spirit/soul has a choice, why would a they CHOOSE to have incarnated into Hilter's forthcoming life when there were so many other, better lives that would have helped it take a quicker path toward total enlightenment?

If spirits/souls know that their deeds on earth will be accounted for, why would ANY spirit/soul choose to incarnate into a life such as Hitler's?

If spirits/souls are striving to be better at every incarnation, then what the hell kind of spirit/soul was the one that was guided to and then chose to incarnate as Hitler in it's previous life?!

Do spirits/souls ever take steps backwards on their journey to full enlightenment due to their mistakes in the life they chose to incarnate into? For example, did Hitler's spirit/soul take a step backwards in its journey to full enlightenment because of the his deeds?