Split Thread Scorpion's Spiritualism

Michel H said:
Statements like this:

(calwaterbear's number was correct)

(Loss Leader's number (for a different test) was correct too)


are evidence for "my apparent telepathy" for me. They are human testimonies, and they are not violent (this is perhaps important nowadays). Doesn't it strike you that so many different people say the same thing? Scorpion (the opening poster of this thread) has his own merits, but do you see such statements about him? No, I don't think so.
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That is only evidence that your irony gland has atrophied.
 
Darat said:
Not sure how Michel H's delusions are on topic for this thread
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They don't. His posts and related ones should be merged with his existing telepathy "Test" thread.

As for scorpion's spiritualism, It's an incoherent cobbled mess of various woo from seemingly everywhere.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim posted a quote on another thread about the fox sisters, claiming they started spiritualism and then admitted they were fakes.

But spirit communication goes back far further that the Fox sisters. Then it was called witchcraft and you could be burnt to death, so obviously talking to spirits is not something people in the middle ages would normally admit to.

However there were mediums in the time of Elisabeth the first and one was called Dr John Dee. He was an adviser to the queen who protected him from persecution.

http://www.elizabethan-era.org.uk/john-dee.htm

He wrote a book called ' True and faithful relation of what passed for many years between Dr John Dee and some spirits' I have a photocopy of it and I am attempting to read some of it. But it's a hard read because it is in old English, and was written in 1659
 
Scorpion said:
Squeegee Beckenheim posted a quote on another thread about the fox sisters, claiming they started spiritualism and then admitted they were fakes.

But spirit communication goes back far further that the Fox sisters. Then it was called witchcraft and you could be burnt to death, so obviously talking to spirits is not something people in the middle ages would normally admit to.

However there were mediums in the time of Elisabeth the first and one was called Dr John Dee. He was an adviser to the queen who protected him from persecution.

http://www.elizabethan-era.org.uk/john-dee.htm

He wrote a book called ' True and faithful relation of what passed for many years between Dr John Dee and some spirits' I have a photocopy of it and I am attempting to read some of it. But it's a hard read because it is in old English, and was written in 1659
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That is not old English.

For anyone interested, here it is.

ETA: For old english take the first line of Beowulf
Hƿæt ƿē Gārde/na ingēar dagum þēod cyninga / þrym ge frunon...
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abaddon said:
That is not old English.

For anyone interested, here it is.
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Thanks, for the link. It is easier to read on my 19inch screen than the printed photocopy I have. But the English is difficult as many words are spelled differently , or have gone out of use, and there is no S in the printing.
 
Scorpion said:
Squeegee Beckenheim posted a quote on another thread about the fox sisters, claiming they started spiritualism and then admitted they were fakes.

But spirit communication goes back far further that the Fox sisters. Then it was called witchcraft and you could be burnt to death, so obviously talking to spirits is not something people in the middle ages would normally admit to.

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You can get into trouble in a number of places today and even get burnt to death if you are suspected of being a witch. Always seems to be in developing countries among primitive people however .... strange that.:confused: Why do you suppose that is?

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Just looking at that little gem of wisdom to the bottom of your post:

You see many stars in the sky at night, but not when the sun rises. Can you therefore say there are no stars in the heavens during the day? O man because you cannot find God in the days of your ignorance, say not that there is no God.
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You know of course that the stars can be observed during the day using a telescope ..... don't you?

That is what makes this such a poor analogy. Can you show me a god or gods using some equipment or technique?
 
Scorpion said:
Thanks, for the link. It is easier to read on my 19inch screen than the printed photocopy I have. But the English is difficult as many words are spelled differently , or have gone out of use, and there is no S in the printing.
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You're welcome. The biggest thing to be aware of is that "f" and "s" are interchangeable.
 
If that's supposed to be an example of the same kind of thing as happens nowadays, then you have to wonder where the mediums are these days who can manifest spirits (who, apparently do not age once they're dead, unlike the ones Scorpion speaks of) who can not only hold full, complete conversations, but can be seen and can interact with the physical world.
 
@ Scorpion,

Have you seen the other thread about the boy from Mars? Seems like something you would be able to provide some input to. This story brings to mind something that niggles at me about reincarnation and spirits.

The boy in the story has recollections about his previous life on Mars. I have heard accounts before of those who recall previous lives. These are very much in the minority however as the greater bulk of us have no such memories.

Strange that we don't hear much about peoples recollections of being in the spirit world, apart from brief descriptions after near death experiences. Do you have any idea why?
 
Thor 2 said:
@ Scorpion,

Have you seen the other thread about the boy from Mars? Seems like something you would be able to provide some input to. This story brings to mind something that niggles at me about reincarnation and spirits.
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I will take a look at it.

Thor 2 said:
The boy in the story has recollections about his previous life on Mars. I have heard accounts before of those who recall previous lives. These are very much in the minority however as the greater bulk of us have no such memories.
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I threw out a series of books by White Eagle lodge because a book said there were people on Mars, The book was written before the NASA space probes that prove there is no life on Mars, so I do not see how anyone could have incarnated there.
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Strange that we don't hear much about peoples recollections of being in the spirit world, apart from brief descriptions after near death experiences. Do you have any idea why?
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We do not normally remember being in the spirit world between lives because we have only the brains memory from birth. Memory of past lives would entail being conscious of the memories stored in the spirit body.
 
Scorpion said:
I threw out a series of books by White Eagle lodge because a book said there were people on Mars, The book was written before the NASA space probes that prove there is no life on Mars...
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No such thing has been “proven”.

As an aside, when I was a teen, there was a very popular book making the rounds...

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Made quite the impression on a lot of folks.

In short, an American girl had memories of a prior life in Ireland. Seemed pretty convincing to a teenager - before I later learned to be skeptical. Turns out there were, in fact, more mundane explanations than reincarnation.
 
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