Ed The Miracles Continue ...

[Emre_1974tr]

NECM

19.Have ye seen Lat. and ´Uzza

20.And another, the third , Manat?

21.Are yours the males and His the females?


22.Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

23.These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!

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The Quran says Lat, Uzza and Menat are fake gods that people make up.

Just like saying the trinity is a fake.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

Something I find intriguing is the reverence Muslims have for Muhammad. When Muslims pray they face Mecca because this is the burial site of Muhammad, correct? Why is this so when you are praying to Allah - is he not everywhere?

No, in the time of the Prophet Muhammad it was also the qible Kabe.

Bakara 144. "We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces when ye pray) toward it. Lo! those who have received the Scripture know that (this Revelation) is the Truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do."

The last prophet's grave is kept secret. It is unknown where it is. Thus, people are prevented from sanctifying the place.

 

[Peregrinus]

NECM

The Quran says Lat, Uzza and Menat are fake gods that people make up.

Just like saying the trinity is a fake.

Just like saying any concept labelled as a divinity is a fake. Not a shred of convincing evidence for the pack of them. Your special pleading* gains you no Get Out of Jail Free card.

*One of your more frequently repeated logical fallacies.

 

[acbytesla]

No, in the time of the Prophet Muhammad it was also the qible Kabe.

Bakara 144. "We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces when ye pray) toward it. Lo! those who have received the Scripture know that (this Revelation) is the Truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do."

The last prophet's grave is kept secret. It is unknown where it is. Thus, people are prevented from sanctifying the place.

Seriously Emre,

Why should we care about Muhammad or the Quran anymore than Gandalf and The Lord of the Rings? You don't have a shred of evidence that any of it is true. Why do you care what is in a dusty old book? Why should we care when you can't prove it is true anymore than any other religions can prove their God or gods are true?

Don't you see that the only thing that sets this apart for you is that you were raised to believe it? If you can't see it, taste it, feel it or detect it with any instrument, how is it different than an illusion?

 

[Thor 2]

No, in the time of the Prophet Muhammad it was also the qible Kabe.

Bakara 144. "We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces when ye pray) toward it. Lo! those who have received the Scripture know that (this Revelation) is the Truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do."

The last prophet's grave is kept secret. It is unknown where it is. Thus, people are prevented from sanctifying the place.

Oh my mistake as I read now Mecca (qible Kabe?) was the place Muhammed was born not died. Also:

It needs to be noted that Arabs had been making the pilgrimage to Mecca-to the enormous granite Ka'aba, the old shrine at the center of the city-for hundreds, possibly thousands of years, before Islam to pay tribute to these 360 gods represented inside the Ka'aba's walls. Muhammad destroyed all but two - that of the Virgin Mary, and that of Christ. However, even those representations would eventually be banned under Islam's subsequent prohibition of images. This prohibition was not endorsed by the Prophet.

So what happened to those images of the Virgin Mary and Christ then, and were those guys wrong in their prohibition?

It seems somewhat opportunistic to grab the Ka'aba for Islam when it was a shrine for the worship for those other 360 gods.

 

[Peregrinus]

It seems somewhat opportunistic to grab the Ka'aba for Islam when it was a shrine for the worship for those other 360 gods.

But ... but ... but ... don't you see that demonstrates the inclusivity of Islam?

 

[Scorpion]

No, in the time of the Prophet Muhammad it was also the qible Kabe.

Bakara 144. "We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces when ye pray) toward it. Lo! those who have received the Scripture know that (this Revelation) is the Truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do."

The last prophet's grave is kept secret. It is unknown where it is. Thus, people are prevented from sanctifying the place.

Emre, please put the surah numbers, not the name of the surah. I know that Bakara is supposed to be Al-Baqarah ,(surah 2 the cow), but not many people would know that, so if they want to look up your Quran quotes they can't do it.

 

[abaddon]

Emre, please put the surah numbers, not the name of the surah. I know that Bakara is supposed to be Al-Baqarah ,(surah 2 the cow), but not many people would know that, so if they want to look up your Quran quotes they can't do it.

It's 2:144. There is a lot of odd stuff in Sura 2.

 

[Thor 2]

But ... but ... but ... don't you see that demonstrates the inclusivity of Islam?

The 360 figure is close to 365 or 365 & 1/4 so I wonder if this is a coincidence. Maybe some divine revelation telling us how many days are in the year?

Not very accurate of course but we get to expect that from divine sources. Can't make it too easy to believe in the existence of gods can we.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

I have said that Islam has existed since the first people.

Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Muhammad are all prophets of Islam. There is only one holy religion.

As people changed religion and the book, the prophet and the book were sent again from God.

The Kaaba is also the first Islamic temple in history.

Quran 3:96. "Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Mecca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;"

After, People degenerated and changed the Kabe and prayer.

Through the Prophet Muhammad, the Qur'an came and Islam was once again transformed into its original form.

The Kaaba is purified from idols.

In short, as people and other beings changed their path of salvation, Islam came again.

 

[BStrong]

I have said that Islam has existed since the first people.

Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Muhammad are all prophets of Islam. There is only one holy religion.

As people changed religion and the book, the prophet and the book were sent again from God.

The Kaaba is also the first Islamic temple in history.

Quran 3:96. "Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Mecca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;"

After, People degenerated and changed the Kabe and prayer.

Through the Prophet Muhammad, the Qur'an came and Islam was once again transformed into its original form.

The Kaaba is purified from idols.

In short, as people and other beings changed their path of salvation, Islam came again.

Blessed are those who came, especially if they came twice or three times.

Your version of religious claptrap isn't any different from any other brand of religious claptrap. .

It all comes down to Hurrah for me! and **** You!

 

[Thor 2]

I have said that Islam has existed since the first people.

Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Muhammad are all prophets of Islam. There is only one holy religion.

As people changed religion and the book, the prophet and the book were sent again from God.

The Kaaba is also the first Islamic temple in history.

Quran 3:96. "Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Mecca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;"

After, People degenerated and changed the Kabe and prayer.

Through the Prophet Muhammad, the Qur'an came and Islam was once again transformed into its original form.

The Kaaba is purified from idols.

In short, as people and other beings changed their path of salvation, Islam came again.

So Abraham, Noah, and Jesus were all prophets of Islam but man screwed it all up you say.

What makes you so sure man hasn't screwed it up again after Muhammad?

Oh wait, I think I have an answer to that...... Man has screwed it up but you Emre are right on the ball.

 

[Peregrinus]

I have said that Islam has existed since the first people.

Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Muhammad are all prophets of Islam. There is only one holy religion.

As people changed religion and the book, the prophet and the book were sent again from God.

The Kaaba is also the first Islamic temple in history.

Quran 3:96. "Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Mecca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;"

After, People degenerated and changed the Kabe and prayer.

Through the Prophet Muhammad, the Qur'an came and Islam was once again transformed into its original form.

The Kaaba is purified from idols.

In short, as people and other beings changed their path of salvation, Islam came again.

Again the cart before the horse*. And please, no more strained metaphors. You have little or no competence with declarative sentences, rational thinking or an unblinkered world view. Gibberish repeated - readily disproven gibberish - remains gibberish.**

*Not to mention several and varied logical fallacies and fanciful historical impossibilities.

**Now, if it turns out you've found some new and wondrously influential psychotropic drugs we might invite you to the party - be sure to bring your own hookah.

 

[Andy_Ross]

**Now, if it turns out you've found some new and wondrously influential psychotropic drugs we might invite you to the party - be sure to bring your own hookah.

Religion is its own Opium.

 

[Hungry81]

I have said that Islam has existed since the first people.

Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Muhammad are all prophets of Islam. There is only one holy religion.

As people changed religion and the book, the prophet and the book were sent again from God.

The Kaaba is also the first Islamic temple in history.

Quran 3:96. "Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Mecca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;"

After, People degenerated and changed the Kabe and prayer.

Through the Prophet Muhammad, the Qur'an came and Islam was once again transformed into its original form.

The Kaaba is purified from idols.

In short, as people and other beings changed their path of salvation, Islam came again.

Ha ha ha. You are back to your " No, my religion really was the firstest." hahahaha, Bull-**** . How infantile.

 

[Donn]

Allah save me from Allah's apologists!

 

[Scorpion]

the prophet and the book were sent again from God.
.

I keep telling ya that the Quran is all stolen from the bible. No wait it, was also stolen from a book of fables.

You have yet to explain, as has every other Muslim I have asked, how the story of Jesus bringing a clay bird to life got into the Quran.
See the Quran verses 3.49 and 5.110

 

[Porpoise of Life]

I keep telling ya that the Quran is all stolen from the bible. No wait it, was also stolen from a book of fables.

Tautology.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

the sun obits the earth.

No,

38- And the Sun moves on to its destination.
That is the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knower.
(36- Ya-Seen, 38)


http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03/the-sun-also-moves-along/

 

[Peregrinus]

No,

38- And the Sun moves on to its destination.
That is the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knower.
(36- Ya-Seen, 38)


http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03/the-sun-also-moves-along/

The Sun has no destination. It matters not how much esteem you might have for the Qur'an - if it makes a statement that is simply not in accord with reality, that statement is not in accord with reality.