Cont: The Trump Presidency Part III

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BBC: 'Obama and Bush decry deep US divisions without naming Trump'

Former Presidents Barack Obama and George W Bush have voiced concern about the current political climate in the US, in comments seen as a veiled rebuke of Donald Trump's leadership.
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So it looks like US put Chad on the travel ban. Chad pulled troops from fight in Niger. U.S. now has casualties due to ignorance of its leader.
 
quadraginta said:
CINO.

You were a conservative. The ideology has moved well to the right from you.

Failing to check any one of the appropriate boxes removes you from the class.

I suspect you likely fail on other critical touchpoints as well.

How do you feel about teaching evolution in school science classes ... without offering ""alternatives" as equally valid?

Same-sex marriage?
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I am a fiscal conservative. On social (and even fiscal) matters I go with evidence-based.
 
Worm said:
BBC: 'Obama and Bush decry deep US divisions without naming Trump'



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After fundraising for race baiting Ed Gillespie Bush the Lesser said this? Someone just wanted to able to come out in public without getting raked over the coals for his abysmal Presidency.
 
More President Trump twitter nonsense:

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Just out report: "United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror." Not good, we must keep America safe!
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tbh Mr President, I don't think ISIS is responsible for breaking and entering and drunk and disorderly :rolleyes:
 
The Don said:
More President Trump twitter nonsense:



tbh Mr President, I don't think ISIS is responsible for breaking and entering and drunk and disorderly :rolleyes:
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The special relationship has taken a number of blows from his incompetence and lying.

Donald Trump was today accused of peddling 'fake news' and stirring up hate after he*wrongly linked the rise in crime in England and Wales to 'Radical Islamic terror'.

The US president sent a tweet referring to figures out yesterday showing crime increased by 13 per cent last year and warning*'We must keep American safe'.*

But British MPs tore into Mr Trump for talking 'nonsense' and said he is 'spreading fear and xenophobia' by wrongly blaming the rise on terrorism.
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This may be a minor point, but he makes the classic mistake. Probably just repeating what many people have reported it as, but still, it pays to check these things.

Trump et al.: UK crime up 13%

Actual report: 13% increase in police-recorded offences across England and Wales

Last time I checked, Police Scotland recorded crime rates were down about 3%.
 
Stacko said:
After fundraising for race baiting Ed Gillespie Bush the Lesser said this? Someone just wanted to able to come out in public without getting raked over the coals for his abysmal Presidency.
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Can no one ever just say, “credit where credit is due”?

Listen to Bush’s speech and try to visualize your reaction to his words were they spoken by anyone else.

This is where extreme partisanship rears it’s ugly head - if Bush doesn’t speak up he’d be criticized for that. If he does speak up, virtually no credit regardless of what he says.

I still say credit where credit is due.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Can no one ever just say, “credit where credit is due”?

Listen to Bush’s speech and try to visualize your reaction to his words were they spoken by anyone else.

This is where extreme partisanship rears it’s ugly head - if Bush doesn’t speak up he’d be criticized for that. If he does speak up, virtually no credit regardless of what he says.

I still say credit where credit is due.
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Very true.
On the other hand, would the extreme partisanship we face today even exist without Bush's unnecessary wars and unbridled deregulation policies?

He usually sounded reasonable.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Can no one ever just say, “credit where credit is due”?

Listen to Bush’s speech and try to visualize your reaction to his words were they spoken by anyone else.

This is where extreme partisanship rears it’s ugly head - if Bush doesn’t speak up he’d be criticized for that. If he does speak up, virtually no credit regardless of what he says.

I still say credit where credit is due.
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It was hypocrisy. He's literally decrying Trump's divisive race baiting while helping a divisive race baiter. Bush the lesser said the right things but he clearly doesn't believe it based on his actions. Empty platitudes from hypocrites get exactly the credit they deserve.
 
Worm said:
This may be a minor point, but he makes the classic mistake. Probably just repeating what many people have reported it as, but still, it pays to check these things.

Trump et al.: UK crime up 13%

Actual report: 13% increase in police-recorded offences across England and Wales

Last time I checked, Police Scotland recorded crime rates were down about 3%.
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There is also the effect that public awareness campaigns elevate both the number of reports and the number of recorded crimes.

I can put a concrete example of such things. Some while ago, a housemate (may he burn in hell) ripped my CC to the tune of slightly over 3K. Now, I don't usually have much interaction with the law (only as a witness/victim before you ask) but this was different/new. I was sent a very nice letter giving me an incident number and the investigating cop's name and number. Never happened before. What is interesting is that this recently returned to the news as said former housemate rented out said former house to three Nigerian Blokes. This only came to light when the actual owner went to sell the property.

The point is that I had to hand all of the references to the actual data to hand so that the two cases could be tied together, and as it turns out, the guy has a bucket of similar pending investigations. This kind of campaign for transparency easily spikes the figures. There are plenty more such examples. E.g. The Christmas drink driving campaigns are soon to be upon us. This will result in a spike in recorded crime (yes, it is a crime).

Incidentally, on the back of the letter was a swathe of suggested support agencies, because being a victim of crime can and does have serious effects on the victim. Not required, in my case. I would have preferred a list of assassins. Or possibly torturers.
 
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