Trump threatening NBC?

[Belz...]

The topic is the threat the President poses to NBC, not his official and unofficial powers more broadly.

Actually, it's about the threat the President made toward NBC, if you want to get pedantic.

And the President can set policy and influence social behaviours, which is powerful enough, his limitations nonwithstanding.

 

[Spindrift]

Officially no. But the president does have the power to influence events.

So do a lot of people.

And you want examples of other people who can make statements that affect stock prices, affect local elections, or attract attention to arbitrary issues?

Yes, you said there was a lot of people.

 

[johnny karate]

So to recap:

A President who attacks free speech = Not a concern.

Football players who kneel during the national anthem = World ruiners.

 

[Belz...]

So to recap:

A President who attacks free speech = Not a concern.

Football players who kneel during the national anthem = World ruiners.

Yeah but the President has no power over free speech, while football players... er... anyway, you know what I mean.

 

[BobTheCoward]

So to recap:

A President who attacks free speech = Not a concern.

Football players who kneel during the national anthem = World ruiners.

Who took that position?

 

[johnny karate]

Who took that position?

Feel free to scroll up to my recent post that makes that explicitly clear.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Feel free to scroll up to my recent post that makes that explicitly clear.

I just did. It looks like you took that position? Were you clarifying your own position?

 

[Belz...]

Post #139, in case you're wondering, although I think Johnny is taking The Prestige's comments perhaps further than the latter intended.

 

[theprestige]

Actually, it's about the threat the President made toward NBC, if you want to get pedantic.

I want to stick to the point I actually raised.

And the President can set policy and influence social behaviours, which is powerful enough, his limitations nonwithstanding.

And yet those limitations exist. His official power over NBC is in fact limited. And hell, the leadership of NBC has just as much power to influence social behaviors as the President does. Arguably, they have even more power to influence, since they can control the degree to which they give the President a platform, and the manner in which they frame his statements. (Arguably--but I'm not particularly interested in arguing it, at the moment. Sorry.)

 

[Belz...]

I want to stick to the point I actually raised.

Fair enough. I was simply responding to your exact words.

And yet those limitations exist. His official power over NBC is in fact limited.

I don't disagree with that: his direct power over NBC is limited.

 

[theprestige]

Yes, you said there was a lot of people.

Bless your heart, Spindrift. What's in it for me if I play along with your DOK attack?

 

[Belz...]

Bless your heart, Spindrift. What's in it for me if I play along with your DOK attack?

You know, I really regret coining that term. I should've known people would misuse it immediately.

 

[theprestige]

Fair enough. I was simply responding to your exact words.

After stripping them of context, in order to dispute a broader point I hadn't actually raised.

I don't disagree with that: his direct power over NBC is limited.

Which differs from what I said how?

 

[Belz...]

After stripping them of context, in order to dispute a broader point I hadn't actually raised.

You said "the topic" was X, when it was not. You didn't say "what I'm talking about is X" and I'm not a mind-reader. When you talk about the topic I thought you meant the topic of the thread.

Which differs from what I said how?

See the word in italics? That's how it differs.

 

[johnny karate]

Post #139, in case you're wondering, although I think Johnny is taking The Prestige's comments perhaps further than the latter intended.

Reasonable minds can disagree, but this was the exact quote, in reference to the protesting NFL players:

“…they're doing too much to make the world a worse place.”

Perhaps I’m taking it too literally.

But then again, if the person who made that statement is going to Chicken Little anyone who complains about Trump, they deserve to have their own reactionary hyperbole thrown in their face.

 

[Spindrift]

Bless your heart, Spindrift. What's in it for me if I play along with your DOK attack?

Attack? Asking for examples of something you claim exists?

 

[theprestige]

See the word in italics? That's how it differs.

You've phrased things differently, but simply rephrasing things doesn't necessarily give rise to a meaningful difference of opinion. How does your phrasing make a difference?

 

[Belz...]

You've phrased things differently, but simply rephrasing things doesn't necessarily give rise to a meaningful difference of opinion. How does your phrasing make a difference?

It's more specific. I said that in the previous post.

 

[theprestige]

Attack? Asking for examples of something you claim exists?

If I said there were several continents besides Australia, would you ask for examples? If I said there were several celebrities besides Kim Kardashian, would you ask for examples? If I said there were several young adult novels besides The Maze Runner, would you ask for examples? If I said there were several good movies besides The Godfather, would you ask for examples?

Why do you need examples of influential people? What benefit do I get from playing along with your request?

 

[Belz...]

What benefit do I get from playing along with your request?

Well, for one you'd be done by now, instead of making several posts in a row complaining about wasting time and energy.