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Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 2

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Mycroft said:
Aww, this discussion must be making you uncomfortable. :(
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John Helmer gives a little (as always amusing) history lesson:

LUNATIC RUSSIA-HATING IN WASHINGTON IS 70 YEARS OLD. IT STARTED WITH JOSEPH ALSOP, GEORGE KENNAN AND THE WASHINGTON POST

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Joseph Alsop (lead image, centre) and George Kennan (right) started the kind of Russia-hating in Washington which, today, President Vladimir Putin, like the businessmen around him, think of as a novelty that cannot last for long.
Alsop was a fake news fabricator, and such a narcissist as to give the bow-ties he wore a bad name. Kennan was a psychopath who alternated bouts of aggression to prove himself with bouts of depression over his cowardice. For them, Russia was a suitable target. The Washington Post was the newspaper which gave their lunacy public asylum. This, according to a fresh history by a university professor from California, started in 1947, long before the arrival in Washington of the anti-communist phobia known after the name of Senator Joseph McCarthy.
Russia-hating was an American upper-class phenomenon, cultivated in the offices, cocktail parties, clubs, and mansions of the deep state, as it emerged out of World War II. It needed a new enemy to thrive; it fastened on Russia (aka the Soviet Union) as the enemy.
McCarthyism was an American lower-class phenomenon. It focused on the loyalty or disloyalty of the upper-class deep-staters. That wasn’t the same thing as Russia-hating; Wall Street bankers, Boston lawyers, homosexuals, Jews, communists, were all the enemy. As the Senator from Wisconsin characterized it himself in 1952, “McCarthyism is Americanism with its sleeves rolled.” He implied – without a middle-class tie; certainly not an upper-class bow-tie.
Russia was not an enemy which united the two American lunacies, for they hated each other much more than they hated the Russians. The Soviet Politburo understood this better then than the Kremlin does now. [...]
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Cl1mh4224rd said:
Humor is a great deflection. People who are funny never do bad things.
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No idea what you're babbling about, but this campaign sure has been one of the most effective in modern advertisement history (If you want I ask Putin to fax me the numbers). And that is because people understand intuitively, contrary to what a bunch of third class shillaries and propaganda victims are telling us, how bizarre these trumped-up accusations the campaign is mocking are, even if they were based in truth. And share the content for free.
 
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Childlike Empress said:
No idea what you're babbling about, but this campaign sure has been one of the most effective in modern advertisement history (If you want I ask Putin to fax me the numbers). And that is because people understand intuitively, contrary to what a bunch of third class shillaries and propaganda victims are telling us, how bizarre these trumped-up accusations the campaign is mocking are, even if they were based in truth. And share the content for free.
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Yeah, "even if they were based in truth." Obviously, Putin and the oligarchs just wanted to help Make America Great Again. huh. Totally bizarre to suggest that the DJT campaign would jump on that and try to keep it secret, even if it's a documented fact that they did.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Yeah, "even if they were based in truth." Obviously, Putin and the oligarchs just wanted to help Make America Great Again. huh. Totally bizarre to suggest that the DJT campaign would jump on that and try to keep it secret, even if it's a documented fact that they did.
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May I remind you that you are now down to "Russia-based" small bucks ad campaigns on facebook with no connection to the leader of the free world at all with your little unamerican regime change campaign? And everybody is laughing at the lunacy? Sorry, but I'll do it anyway. :thumbsup::cool:
 
Childlike Empress said:
May I remind you that you are now down to "Russia-based" small bucks ad campaigns on facebook with no connection to the leader of the free world at all with your little unamerican regime change campaign? And everybody is laughing at the lunacy? Sorry, but I'll do it anyway. :thumbsup::cool:
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Everybody? May I remind you who is "laughing at the lunacy" and who isn't? Was The Donald "laughing at the lunacy" when he fired Comey for investigating Flynn? Was Putin "laughing at the lunacy" when he had Oleg Erovinkin murdered for his part in the Steele dossier? Nope, it's just the fascist fanboys who are "laughing at the lunacy."
 
Childlike Empress said:
May I remind you that you are now down to "Russia-based" small bucks ad campaigns on facebook with no connection to the leader of the free world at all with your little unamerican regime change campaign? And everybody is laughing at the lunacy? Sorry, but I'll do it anyway. :thumbsup::cool:
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The other stuff is still there even if it is still fallen off the radar. Jeff sessions still had meetings with the Russian ambassador he lied about.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Everybody? May I remind you who is "laughing at the lunacy" and who isn't? Was The Donald "laughing at the lunacy" when he fired Comey for investigating Flynn? Was Putin "laughing at the lunacy" when he had Oleg Erovinkin murdered for his part in the Steele dossier? Nope, it's just the fascist fanboys who are "laughing at the lunacy."
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So, let's see. That's everybody but Trump and Putin, including the fascist fanboys. Not sure if that changes much, William Seger. Or why I should even disagree with it. Or why you even try this transparent nonsense. Oh, strike the latter.
 
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