nurse cuffed by cop for not breaking law

[Dave Rogers]

Probably, but it's really hard to see being busted from lieutenant to officer as lenient. All in all, I'd say the department's response is quite acceptable.

As, I suppose, is the hospital's for admitting that somebody in internal security should have intervened. The next question is, what changes will be put in place to avoid something similar happening in future?

Dave

 

[quadraginta]

I dunno. Getting busted from Lt. down to street patrol is a pretty big step. Now he'll have to depend on the guys he used to order around. And if he looks for another job, it will be as a plain cop, not as an executive.

Probably, but it's really hard to see being busted from lieutenant to officer as lenient. All in all, I'd say the department's response is quite acceptable.

When someone hires someone else to do something wrong the law tends to punish both of them, and often the instigator is punished more harshly than the actual perpetrator.

But when a superior orders a subordinate to do something wrong the subordinate gets the axe and the superior gets ... an demotion.

Yeah, that seems fair.

 

[Trebuchet]

In a way, the severe reduction in rank seems almost worse than the firing -- it's really insulting and degrading. But yeah, he should have been fired. He'll almost certainly quit anyhow.

 

[Belz...]

Justice served, then.

 

[MikeG]

....The next question is, what changes will be put in place to avoid something similar happening in future?......

Bigger guns for the hospital security people, perhaps.

 

[KatieG]

In a way, the severe reduction in rank seems almost worse than the firing -- it's really insulting and degrading. But yeah, he should have been fired. He'll almost certainly quit anyhow.

His friends will circle the wagons. Many others will smirk behind his back. Some will remain neutral. Depending on how long he's been at that PD, there is probably a pension involved. Humiliation or Money? How long til he retires.

Inquiring minds want to know. Payne can just piss off. He deserves nothing but scorn and rebuke.

 

[Hubert Cumberdale]

Bigger guns for the hospital security people, perhaps.

More guns, the answer is always more guns.

Maybe the nurses should have AR-15's?

 

[Beerina]

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[Dabop]

Update
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41827040

A US nurse who was held for refusing to allow police take a blood sample from an unconscious patient has accepted $500,000 (£376,500) in compensation.

Alex Wubbels reached the monetary settlement with Salt Lake City and the University of Utah, her attorney said.

Her arrest by police in July caused outrage when footage of the incident later emerged. She was seen handcuffed and dragged by a policeman to a car.

She was later released without charge. The policeman was sacked last month.

His superior was demoted.

Wonder if this will make it start sinking into the us police's heads that they are not above the law?

 

[quadraginta]

Update
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41827040



Wonder if this will make it start sinking into the us police's heads that they are not above the law?

Why should they? It didn't come out of their paychecks.

 

[Dabop]

Well it did in a way, with him being fired and his boss demoted
I am just glad she got some compensation for what was a very terrifying ordeal for her
Personally I would have had the cop and his boss both charged with kidnapping, thats what they basically did
They both knew the rules, decided they simply didnt apply to them and the boss told his guy it was ok to cuff her and take her away (even just a few meters) from her station, putting other peoples lives in risk as injured/sick people were ignored in this debacle

 

[Ranb]

Unless the prosecuting attorney wants to send a message to the police, I don't think he or she would do that in a case like this.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Unless the prosecuting attorney wants to send a message to the police, I don't think he or she would do that in a case like this.

Exactly it doesn't matter what laws they broke, maintaining good relationships with the police department is too important to bring them to justice. The system works as intended.

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Unless the prosecuting attorney wants to send a message to the police, I don't think he or she would do that in a case like this.

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This is where the tapatalk signature that annoys people used to be

 

[fuelair]

My wife is a nurse in a methadone clinic. They employ off-duty cops (in uniform) as security. I don't recall if they carried firearms, but I assume they do. Otherwise they'd be unarmed targets for the addicts who thought robbing a methadone clinic was a god idea.

Which god???

 

[quadraginta]

Well it did in a way, with him being fired and his boss demoted
<snip>

Please go back and review the statement of yours I was responding to.

It wasn't referring to the two people who were disciplined or their future behavior.

It was referring to "the us police".

No other police officers felt any pain in the wallet from the $500,000 paid by Salt Lake City and the University of Utah.

 

[fuelair]

Exactly it doesn't matter what laws they broke, maintaining good relationships with the police department is too important to bring them to justice. The system works as intended.

I assume massive sarcasm herein!!!! Quite appropriate!!!!!!

 

[theprestige]

Update
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41827040



Wonder if this will make it start sinking into the us police's heads that they are not above the law?

There's no such thing as "US police". There's hundreds of independent police forces with separate jurisductions, each serving a distinct community and having a distinct relationship with the community they serve.

 

[Bob001]

There's no such thing as "US police". There's hundreds of independent police forces with separate jurisductions, each serving a distinct community and having a distinct relationship with the community they serve.

Actually -- depressingly -- there are as many as 18,000 independent police departments in the U.S., ranging from one-man Barney Fife shops to the NYPD and LAPD. The number seems to vary depending who's counting what, but it's always ridiculous.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...es-ramsey/how-many-police-departments-are-us/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States