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[Johanabrahams]

Kan ek 'n voorstel maak? Miskien skryf in Afrikaans. Dit sal net soveel sin vir die meeste mense hier maak as jou algemene struikelblokke, maar jy kan ten minste een of ander sin in een taal maak.

Jy praat mooi Afrikaans. But actually Afrikaans is a regional language. English is international. So we need to stick to English. We just need to stick to it till everybody that wants to understand.

 

[fagin]

I was hoping you'd make some sort of sense.

But that hope is long since dashed on the rocks of extreme disaster.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Next time don't copypasta a wall of text. Link to one of the pages hosting it: https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-love-we-need.8030456/

Walls of text copied and pasted from other sites are verboten in the site rules.

Ok. You went behind my back and reported me. Just the way kids do. Running to their mothers for help. But one day when you are grown you will just point out the mistake I made and I will correct it as I did in the past.

No need to burden "mommy" for things you can handle yourself in a better way.

 

[Johanabrahams]

You are using 20 emails as proof of 4000 people 'hiding' from you?
Do the emails say they are hiding from you?

Nope. You missed it. I am using Abaddon's "facts" for that. The e-mails are just for you to ask them if they want to say something or hide.

 

[fagin]

Just for your edification, the rules are to report posts and let the MODS deal with stuff, not to play MOD.

If you read the rules and comply with them you won't have posts reported.

 

[Johanabrahams]

omfg
Johan.... note the date of the post you responded to. It's right there where his post is.
It is YOU who are 10 days behind in this thread, you moron.

Now i have to wait 10 days for you to actually read this post.

Ok I got your advice. Was good so I can follow it. I saw I got behind and thought I will catch up but many problems rised up in my situation and my children with whom I am staying. And I had to tend to them first.

But I will take the posts now from this point and work backwards and see where I get. Somebody wanting an urgent reply will just have to say it again so that the post gets to the end of the line.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Johan... If you don't know what the actual story is, then why do you post things that you don't know about?

You make a statement: "Zola is "The leader of the youth of the ruling party in South Africa" (direct quote)
I question your statement.
Then you say: "well, i don't know, you should ask him"

Why do you make false statements? Why do you make statements if you don't know if they are true? Why do you make statements that you can't support?

Are you so sloppy that you just say whatever comes into your head? Or are you lying about things? Sloppiness is not tolerated, according to the scripture of Johanabrahams. Are you just fumbling that you are making statements that you don't know the truth about? It's time for you to turn that eye upon yourself.

Do not jump to conclusions. He told me so himself. The day I posted that information I showed him too. He didn't say anything contrary. So we need to ask him. Which I did. I linked the first post in this regard to him. Let us wait on him.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Not always. Some continue to believe in fairy stories right into adulthood. Some even invent more fairy stories to make themselves seem important.

Yep and others like to make God important and not themselves.

 

[TofuFighter]

Nope. You missed it. I am using Abaddon's "facts" for that. The e-mails are just for you to ask them if they want to say something or hide.

Nope. You missed it. Let me remind you:

So from whom are 4000 white Europeans hiding? Me or God?

They're not hiding from anyone.

They are just there. All their e-mails. Approximately 20 of them. So where are they?

You are using 20 emails as proof of 4000 people 'hiding' from you? Do the emails say they are hiding from you?

What facts and what proof do you have that they are hiding from you?
Are they not still in their homes in Robertson? Isn't it you that moved away?

I'd like you to stop making statements that are not true.
If you believe that your statements are true, then provide proof that they are true.

 

[Johanabrahams]

You missed the point. Read again.

How did I miss it?

 

[Johanabrahams]

I was hoping you'd make some sort of sense.

But that hope is long since dashed on the rocks of extreme disaster.

Why?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Just for your edification, the rules are to report posts and let the MODS deal with stuff, not to play MOD.

If you read the rules and comply with them you won't have posts reported.

When I see a friend stealing I will tell him not to do it. Only after he does not take me seriously will I allow the disaster of being caught to teach him to listen to me in future.

That is why I am a mother and you are a child.

 

[TofuFighter]

Do not jump to conclusions. He told me so himself. The day I posted that information I showed him too. He didn't say anything contrary. So we need to ask him. Which I did. I linked the first post in this regard to him. Let us wait on him.

Okay... so you admit that you have posted information which you do not know to be true. I don't know why you posted that, but for the moment let us assume that it is not relevant.

What is the point of posting a picture of Zola where he says that you are his mother? Can you at least explain that to us?

Personally, I don't believe Zola is interested in being part of this whole conversation. He has not made any comments on his own facebook page about it, he has not made any comments on this forum. I assume he has not made any comments on the other forums that you link to. It looks like you are forcing him into being part of this whole claim of yours. Can you explain why he has not made any comment?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Clearly whatever brand of impotent, fractional "deity" you claim to be doesn't come with the "omniscient" module installed. Don't feel bad. In this thread I've been mathematically proven to be TWICE the deity you are and I'm not omniscient either. How can you, with half of what I have, expect to wield powers I lack myself?

No problem. I am not jealous. Maybe I can even learn something from you.

Thank you for conceding my superior knowledge of scripture. I'll happily teach you more, seeing how paltry the scripture knowledge is you've demonstrated thus far.

Nope. Didn't do that. Our knowledge differ substantially. I was taught by the Writer. You struggled yourself to understand a Writer that you could not.

There's a rumor you were once a pastor, but I'm not aware of any denominations that ordain anyone that ignorant of scripture.

I am still a reverend of the Dutch Reformed Church. Just not practicing anymore because of article 12. A congregation unhappy with its reverend should cancel the tie.

You really don't understand the concept of metaphor, do you?

Yep. I do. Went to University for 7 years and have a masters in Theology. But God told me something else. A metaphor according to Him is humans way of disregarding what He said.

No disrespect meant, but let's be blunt. Your alleged follower is just "some random guy" to us. His testimony, such as it is, is meaningless. We know nothing of him. We don't know how trustworthy he is.

Well not for long seeing that you are now his "friend".

We don't know what he even meant by calling you "mother." For all we know you could have blackmailed him into calling you that.

As his "friend" you will be able now to solve that question.

YOU are the only person who has assigned any meaning to him calling you "mother." For all we know he could call EVERYONE he likes "Mother."

You are his "friend"?

The fact you keep trotting him out as proof of something is bizarre.

Just do your homework and come back with facts. Your fumbling is very obvious.

 

[fagin]

When I see a friend stealing I will tell him not to do it. Only after he does not take me seriously will I allow the disaster of being caught to teach him to listen to me in future.

That is why I am a mother and you are a child.

Based on your body of work, you seem incapable of taking advice.

Sometimes the big stick is a necessary evil.

 

[TofuFighter]

Do not jump to conclusions. He told me so himself. The day I posted that information I showed him too. He didn't say anything contrary. So we need to ask him. Which I did. I linked the first post in this regard to him. Let us wait on him.

You have been posting links on Zola's FB wall for about 3 weeks. He has not made one single response. He hasn't even 'liked' a single one of your posts. How long must we wait?

 

[Craig4]

Yep. Like everybody else too. So you are still in your corner and seems she is on her way there.

Robertson are still hiding in darkness and Nkqubela is coming to the Light. Lots of different perceptions. But in the end it all boils down to one thing. The pride of the human being in himself. That is what God is playing with. That is a very selfish spirit. To find your pride in God is not selfish and full of self. That is the way to be true Humble. Knowing you are actually selfish and giving it up and finding your worth now in God is unselfish. He is unselfish. He gave His Life for us to live. He is now "non existent". The true Servant. And we need to do the same. We also need to become "non existent". Only there will you find True Existence.

But you've done nothing to him.

 

[Craig4]

Yep. I moved on. To Nkqubela. Have a new Life there. They accept me. But we still need to know why the white Africans could not. And I spoke so they need to speak too. Something is hindering them to speak. Abaddon has a different opinion on this one.

He said it is fear. One of you are wrong.

Is it possible that what's keeping them from speaking is that they don't care? Why does it follow that just because you spoke they have to respond?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Psst. Check the date stamps. The post you're responding to was made BEFORE you had Zola change the security on the post. My post was accurate at the time it was made.

Nope. It is not about the date stamp. It is about you knowing how FB works. You could have followed the way of "friends" from the beginning since you knew about the operation of FB.

Do we need to add date stamps to the list of basic concepts that escape you?

I am in better concepts. Your spirit.

Go back and re-read the thread. I DID ask him. He never responded.

You were rather speaking to me then asking him.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37317&d=1507801483

That's a bald faced lie and I think you know it. I never accused him of doing anything bad. I merely pointed out your comical ignorance of basic Facebook security.

This is your post?

We are blocked from seeing the image. A direct link won't work. Hunting for it in their profile won't work. You are allowed to see the image because that's how the person whose profile you are linking to has set up the security. Zola want's YOU to be able to see the image, but does NOT want outsiders like us to see it. The security he's placed on the image proves he's only humoring you. Whatever he wrote on the image is meant for you to see, but he has no interest in letting outsiders see it.

If whatever he wrote there were sincere, he wouldn't be restricting it this way.

Clearly he doesn't fear you as a supernatural entity, or he wouldn't try such a transparent tactic. The one follower you thought you have has in fact rejected you, and you gave us the proof yourself.

The only problem was that we didn't understand the security of Facebook.

But you judged him with "bad" reasons. And if you look there on his page you will find this exact post there to him. So he will see it how you wrongly judged him.

But this post I will not show him just yet. We have the chance now to see what he is going to say without me leading him. He has to walk in his own relationship with his Father which is God and find his own Wisdom there.

You have been a great help in this regard. And you can be a help to yourself too.
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No, I judged you for not understanding the basic security concepts that were explained to you multiple times. Why are you so desperate to blame someone else for your failures?

Nope. But at that time everybody were just complaining until somebody pointed the way. Then I understood and took some steps to change it which has worked. Now everybody can see what we are speaking about. But if they want to do better. Accept the rules of Facebook and become a "friend".

 

[fagin]

It's not a FB rule that you have to accept friend requests from every random kook in the world.

Just saying...