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Its different when its your side piece

Guy sounds like a real asshat judging by the memo (linked in your article) that his Chief of Staff wrote.

Other than that, what Fagin said. No shortage of hypocrisy on the hill.
 
fagin said:
And in breaking news, politician is a hypocrite.
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And a typical republicker piece of lying fecal matter. As are they all lying pieces of fecal matter - only in the job for graft and BJs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
fagin said:
And in breaking news, politician is a hypocrite.
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There are a few dimensions to this but I want to focus on one.

It is not hypocritical to be in favor of laws against activity you engage in.

Humans respond to incentives
Laws are incentives
Murphy is a human.

It would have been hypocritical for him to say laws were unneeded because character was enough to stop abortions. Instead, he is good example of why the laws he proposed would be needed.
 
I can buy that argument in certain situations. The polluting company that supports anti-polluting laws, because the only reason they pollute is that all of their competition pollutes and not polluting is an additional cost that would not allow them to compete fairly with the other companies, for example.

Here? No. FFS.
 
BobTheCoward said:
There are a few dimensions to this but I want to focus on one.

It is not hypocritical to be in favor of laws against activity you engage in.

Humans respond to incentives
Laws are incentives
Murphy is a human.

It would have been hypocritical for him to say laws were unneeded because character was enough to stop abortions. Instead, he is good example of why the laws he proposed would be needed.
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I disagree. Not all laws are the same, and not all justifications for laws are the same.

One way of looking at this is the distinction between malum in se versus malum prohibitum: things that are intrinsically wrong versus things that are wrong because they are prohibited.

For example, suppose that your tax rate is 20%. If you only pay 18%, that's illegal. But it's malum prohibitum. The proper functioning of society requires most people to not commit malum prohibitum crimes, but there's nothing intrinsically wrong about paying 18% instead of 20% taxes. Likewise, if you think the tax rate should be 25% because you think the government needs more funding to pay for some program you want, it's not hypocritical to only pay 20% when that's what the law requires. There's no intrinsic moral value connected to either tax rate, only practical considerations. And you can't achieve the purely practical goals of a higher general tax rate by just paying more yourself.

But the commonly used justifications for prohibiting abortion frame it as malum in se. It isn't just practical considerations (such as a desired population growth rate, or stimulation for the pediatrics industry, etc) driving that push, but moral ones. And if you think that it's malum in se, then to do it yourself is indeed hypocritical.

Hypocrisy is a very normal human trait, nothing remarkable at all, but I think this still qualifies.
 
Lithrael said:
I can buy that argument in certain situations. The polluting company that supports anti-polluting laws, because the only reason they pollute is that all of their competition pollutes and not polluting is an additional cost that would not allow them to compete fairly with the other companies, for example.

Here? No. FFS.
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Why would you apply it pollution but not murder?
 
You get used to hypocrisy in politics,but Murphy takes it about as far as you can go.
Even Mr. Pecksniff would find it outrageous.
 
dudalb said:
You get used to hypocrisy in politics,but Murphy takes it about as far as you can go.
Even Mr. Pecksniff would find it outrageous.
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This has nothing to do with politics, it is the basics of the anti abortion movement as a whole.
 
Abortion is a complex and difficult moral topic, so for guidance I turn to one of the more thoughtful modern philosophers when she sang:

I'm a baby killer
Baby killing makes me horny
Alien's inside me
Gonna squash it like I'm Sigourney

Get dat fetus, kill dat fetus
Get dat fetus, kill dat fetus
Brrap brrap, pew pew
Brrap brrap, pew pew

I'm a dolphin doll face
Bitch is in my crawlspace
Have abortions sometimes?
No, I'ma have abortions always

Get dat fetus, kill dat fetus
Get dat fetus, kill dat fetus
Brrap brrap, pew pew
Brrap brrap, pew pew

And sometimes I do have doubts and it's hard to sleep
I think about my child's heartbeat and oh it makes me weep
I hope and pray to God my little fetus has a soul
Because I want it to feel pain when I eject it from my hole
Brrap brrap brrap brrap
*dolphin noise*
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--Sextina Aquafina, "Get Dat Fetus, Kill Dat Fetus (Brrap Brrap Pew Pew)"
 
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