• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Split Thread Offensive language - is it still offensive if offence is not intended?

halleyscomet said:
I am merely trying to convey the cultural baggage the word carries in the USA, and how that baggage makes it a very poor synonym for "foolish" in civil discourse.

Please do not use the word as a synonym for "foolish" again, unless your intention is be deliberately vulgar, cruel, dismissive an nasty. Expect hostile reactions when you use that word in the future, as it is a hostile word and one that provokes further hostility.

I am reminded of one of my former employers, who lost a client because he used the phrase "Jew me down" to describe a tough bargaining process with the client, and the client overheard him. Your arguments to defend your use of the word "retarded" sound very similar to the justifications he used over the phrase "Jew me down." In both cases something was said without intended hostility, but hostility was perceived as a result of the cultural baggage of the words used.

If you wish to be understood, you must contaminate clearly, with awareness of the nuances of the language you are using.
Click to expand...

Oh, it appears this site is mostly USA populated, and it is pertinent that any member speaks in manner that makes USA people feel good...
 
fagin said:
I have met many Jamaican people, and they have been well mannered.

Try not to let the side down.
Click to expand...

Most Jamaicans are religious fools.

I am already letting them down in that regard; I don't subscribe to fictitious character worship, and they don't fancy that..

I am not liable to care about "letting the side down".
 
abaddon said:
Wait, for real? You really do not know that white supremacists use the term to categorise anyone with insufficiently pasty skin as a sub-human? Really?
Click to expand...

I ponder what other standard words "white supremacists" use, and whether we should avoid using them, because the "white supremacists" use them...
 
ProgrammingGodJordan said:
I ponder what other standard words "white supremacists" use, and whether we should avoid using them, because the "white supremacists" use them...
Click to expand...

This is why the thread keeps turning back to your piss-poor communication skills and WHY your piss-poor communication skills remains relevant to the thread.

A good communicator would choose to stop using a word or phrase that offended the majority of the people they were communicating with. Being needlessly offensive distracts from your core message. At this point YOU have derailed your own thread by doubling down on justifying your use of a word others found offensive. You then went on to take the opportunity to take unrelated and unjustified pot-shots at the character of your fellow countrymen.

I've been reading this thread for a while now, and you have consistently and persistently alienated people and engendered hostility towards your point of view. If Einstein had conducted himself the way you are now, the odds are good we STILL wouldn't know why the orbit of Mercury is so wonky.
 
Last edited:
ProgrammingGodJordan said:
Sorry, I have a bit of autism
Click to expand...

I know a number of people on the Autism and Asperger's spectrum. The ones who are successful in their endeavors tend to take feedback on their communication skills seriously. The ones who go in for a bull-headed, legalistic defense when told they are communicating poorly tend to have career and romantic problems.

You know you have issues with communication. Please stop rejecting feedback from people who simply want you to be able to communicate more effectively. I want to see your ideas discussed on their merits, not on your personality and behavior.
 
ProgrammingGodJordan said:
Oh, it appears this site is mostly USA populated, and it is pertinent that any member speaks in manner that makes USA people feel good...
Click to expand...

You were warned by a moderator who is not from the USA. A word to the wise is sufficient, but it looks like you're going to need stronger admonishment.
 
Last edited:
halleyscomet said:
I know a number of people on the Autism and Asperger's spectrum. The ones who are successful in their endeavors tend to take feedback on their communication skills seriously. The ones who go in for a bull-headed, legalistic defense when told they are communicating poorly tend to have career and romantic problems.

You know you have issues with communication. Please stop rejecting feedback from people who simply want you to be able to communicate more effectively. I want to see your ideas discussed on their merits, not on your personality and behavior.
Click to expand...

I see you are no different from the people who tend to want to attack me absent evidence; they jump on the "let's attack Jordan on the premise of an invalid thing some other poster has mentioned" bandwagon.

Before you jump on the bandwagon of Jordan is wrong, investigate the details for yourself.
 
ProgrammingGodJordan said:
I see you are no different from the people who tend to want to attack me absent evidence; they jump on the "let's attack Jordan on the premise of an invalid thing some other poster has mentioned" bandwagon.

Before you jump on the bandwagon of Jordan is wrong, investigate the details for yourself.
Click to expand...

*BANG*
 
ProgrammingGodJordan said:
I see you are no different from the people who tend to want to attack me absent evidence; they jump on the "let's attack Jordan on the premise of an invalid thing some other poster has mentioned" bandwagon.

Before you jump on the bandwagon of Jordan is wrong, investigate the details for yourself.
Click to expand...

I'm not attacking you. I'm trying to help you. I'm sorry for whatever life experiences lead you to conflate the two.

When a student who claims that 2+2=5 is told that the correct answer is 4, the student is not being attacked. Please try to see discussion of your communication and writing style in the same light in which you saw your early mathematics education.
 
John Jones said:
You were warned by a moderator who is not from the USA. A word to the wise is sufficient, but it looks like you're going to need stronger admonishment.
Click to expand...

I was simply responding in accordance with the comment of another here:

halleyscomet said:
I am merely trying to convey the cultural baggage the word carries in the USA, and how that baggage makes it a very poor synonym for "foolish" in civil discourse.
Click to expand...

..but I see like some others here, you want to make some form of comment, regardless of the lack of evidence or reason to justify said comment.

You see "ProgrammingGodJordan" and something clicks, and you get the urge to say something likely silly, just for the irrelevant sake of it.

Here is a prime example: Yet another example where a member attacks Jordan, for a particular scope, but totally ignores another member for quite a similar scope.
 
halleyscomet said:
I'm not attacking you. I'm trying to help you. I'm sorry for whatever life experiences lead you to conflate the two.

When a student who claims that 2+2=5 is told that the correct answer is 4, the student is not being attacked. Please try to see discussion of your communication and writing style in the same light in which you saw your early mathematics education.
Click to expand...

A silly anecdote; as I said before, investigate the details, and avoid silly "2+2=5" anecdotes.

Of course, I don't mind attacks supported by sufficient evidence, but attacking absent evidence is not optimal.
 
Last edited:
A message from the executor of the estate of MostlyDead (herinafter, AllTheWayDead):

Hommes, we just talked about this. Read the posts above from halleyscomet and John Jones. Take them to heart, they contain solid advice. Stop insulting and looking for arguments.
 
MostlyDead said:
A message from the executor of the estate of MostlyDead (herinafter, AllTheWayDead):

Hommes, we just talked about this. Read the posts above from halleyscomet and John Jones. Take them to heart, they contain solid advice. Stop insulting and looking for arguments.
Click to expand...

I stand by replies 290 and 291.

I motion that it is okay to attack someone in argument, given that sufficient evidence is provided.

Why has my supermathematics thread become this unfortunate political soup?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom