Cont: The Trump Presidency Part III

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The nations of the world just voted on whether it’s okay to execute people for being gay. Guess how the U.S. voted.

They were pro-executing homosexuals. Remember when Trump campaigned on protecting the LGBTQ community from this?

wtf am i reading. This can't possibly be correct.

ETA: She (Nikki Haley) said that the U.S. voted against the resolution because of its (The US's, I presume) support for the legal death penalty, adding that it had hoped for a "balanced and inclusive" resolution rather than one that said capital punishment is a human rights violation.
(Bracketed edits are mine)

Seems this is about the USA not wanting to appear contradictory about having a pro-death-penalty stance, and at the same time signing a resolution which condemns the death penalty.
 
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US always votes for death penalty at the UN.

This resolution was not for against the death penalty. It was for or against the execution of LGBT. Specifically, it was about the discriminatory use of the death penalty against LGBT.

It's frigging disgusting.
 
wtf am i reading. This can't possibly be correct.

ETA: She (Nikki Haley) said that the U.S. voted against the resolution because of its (The US's, I presume) support for the legal death penalty, adding that it had hoped for a "balanced and inclusive" resolution rather than one that said capital punishment is a human rights violation.
(Bracketed edits are mine)

Seems this is about the USA not wanting to appear contradictory about having a pro-death-penalty stance, and at the same time signing a resolution which condemns the death penalty.
Like it makes any difference why a State supports legalised murder. I mean, you'd think any country that wanted to keep the Death Penalty was theocratic, right-wing, gun-loving... oh, wait ...
 
Don't you hate it when these liberal-left wing snow flakes don't give president trump the respect that he deserves?

From: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/04/tillerson-called-trump-a-moron-says-report.html
Rex Tillerson openly referred to President Donald Trump "a moron" after a July 20 meeting at the Pentagon...

Not sure who this Tillerson guy is. Must be some Obama holdover. After all, Trump always claimed that he would "hire the best people". Drain the swamp Mr. President!
 
wtf am i reading. This can't possibly be correct.

ETA: She (Nikki Haley) said that the U.S. voted against the resolution because of its (The US's, I presume) support for the legal death penalty, adding that it had hoped for a "balanced and inclusive" resolution rather than one that said capital punishment is a human rights violation.
(Bracketed edits are mine)

Seems this is about the USA not wanting to appear contradictory about having a pro-death-penalty stance, and at the same time signing a resolution which condemns the death penalty.

That pro-death penalty fig leaf doesn't cover much.

Disgusting.

Because, you know, since the USA is pro-death penalty, we can't support the idea the death penalty might just be overkill in some situations.
 
Drain the swamp?

In the spring of 2012, Donald Trump’s two eldest children, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr., found themselves in a precarious legal position. For two years, prosecutors in the Manhattan District Attorney’s office had been building a criminal case against them for misleading prospective buyers of units in the Trump SoHo, a hotel and condo development that was failing to sell. Despite the best efforts of the siblings’ defense team, the case had not gone away. An indictment seemed like a real possibility. The evidence included emails from the Trumps making clear that they were aware they were using inflated figures about how well the condos were selling to lure buyers.

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On May 16, 2012, Kasowitz visited Vance’s office at One Hogan Place in downtown Manhattan — a faded edifice made famous by the television show, “Law & Order.” Dan Alonso, the chief assistant district attorney, and Adam Kaufmann, the chief of the investigative division, were also at the meeting, but no one from the Major Economic Crimes Bureau attended. Kasowitz did not introduce any new arguments or facts during his session. He simply repeated the arguments that the other defense lawyers had been making for months.

Ultimately, Vance overruled his own prosecutors. Three months after the meeting, he told them to drop the case. Kasowitz subsequently boasted to colleagues about representing the Trump children, according to two people. He said that the case was “really dangerous,” one person said, and that it was “amazing I got them off.” (Kasowitz denied making such a statement.)

Vance defended his decision. “I did not at the time believe beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime had been committed,” he told us. “I had to make a call and I made the call, and I think I made the right call.”

Just before the 2012 meeting, Vance’s campaign had returned Kasowitz’s $25,000 contribution, in keeping with what Vance describes as standard practice when a donor has a case before his office. Kasowitz “had no influence and his contributions had no influence whatsoever on my decision-making in the case,” Vance said.

But less than six months after the D.A.’s office dropped the case, Kasowitz made an even larger donation to Vance’s campaign, and helped raise more from others — eventually, a total of more than $50,000. After being asked about these donations as part of the reporting for this article — more than four years after the fact — Vance said he now plans to give back Kasowitz’s second contribution, too. “I don’t want the money to be a millstone around anybody’s neck, including the office’s,” he said.
 
This resolution was not for against the death penalty. It was for or against the execution of LGBT. Specifically, it was about the discriminatory use of the death penalty against LGBT.

It's frigging disgusting.

It contained a lot more than that. It also included a condemnation of the death penalty in several other cases including people under 18 at the time the murder was committed and people with certain disabilities. I happen to agree with those additional positions, but they are very controversial here in the US.
 
wtf am i reading. This can't possibly be correct.

ETA: She (Nikki Haley) said that the U.S. voted against the resolution because of its (The US's, I presume) support for the legal death penalty, adding that it had hoped for a "balanced and inclusive" resolution rather than one that said capital punishment is a human rights violation.
(Bracketed edits are mine)

Seems this is about the USA not wanting to appear contradictory about having a pro-death-penalty stance, and at the same time signing a resolution which condemns the death penalty.

It contained a lot more than that. It also included a condemnation of the death penalty in several other cases including people under 18 at the time the murder was committed and people with certain disabilities. I happen to agree with those additional positions, but they are very controversial here in the US.


I wonder why her spokescritter felt the need to lie about it.

“As our representative to the Human Rights Council said last Friday, the United States is disappointed to have voted against that resolution,” Hauert said at a press briefing Tuesday. “We voted against that resolution because of broader concerns with the resolution’s approach in condemning the death penalty in all circumstances, and it called for the abolition of the death penalty altogether.
 
Also worth pointing out that the administration could have simply abstained as some other countries did.
 
Also worth pointing out that the administration could have simply abstained as some other countries did.

Yes, the US could have stated although it condemned the execution of people for being gay,the resolution was way too broad and amounted to a condemnation of the death penalty, period, which the US could not support.
Badly handled.
 
Yes, the US could have stated although it condemned the execution of people for being gay,the resolution was way too broad and amounted to a condemnation of the death penalty, period, which the US could not support.
Badly handled.

This administration seems to go out of its way to create the worst possible optics on almost everything. I honestly think that Trump could find a way to generate bad press rescuing a dog from the pound or something like that.
 
This administration seems to go out of its way to create the worst possible optics on almost everything. I honestly think that Trump could find a way to generate bad press rescuing a dog from the pound or something like that.

He'd be talking about how he picked the most beautiful dog, the best dog, and all those other ugly mutts should just be put down to save money.

The thing is that Trump genuinely thinks he's right about everything. When he tells the suffering people of Puerto Rico that they are costing a lot of money and busting his budget, that's all that matters to him and he doesn't understand why others don't feel the same way.
 
This administration seems to go out of its way to create the worst possible optics on almost everything. I honestly think that Trump could find a way to generate bad press rescuing a dog from the pound or something like that.

I honestly think that the only optics Trump cares about is looking good to his core supporters. The danger is that Trump will go more and more extreme as that core begins to get smaller...which it is showing signs of doing.

We have a man monumentally unfit to be President in the Oval Office. And those who think they can somehow control or manage him are in for a very rude awakening.
 
I honestly think that the only optics Trump cares about is looking good to his core supporters. The danger is that Trump will go more and more extreme as that core begins to get smaller...which it is showing signs of doing.

We have a man monumentally unfit to be President in the Oval Office. And those who think they can somehow control or manage him are in for a very rude awakening.

Basically, I think that about the only hope is that Trump's intestine follows the example of the intestine of Grunthos the Flatulent

Mr President, make sure you have extra ice cream - and lots of lampreys, a surfeit, even.
 
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