Cont: The Trump Presidency Part III

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The Great Zaganza said:
Really?
What, exactly , would be a sufficiently high percentage?

90% ?
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But when you talk about a group with out specifying absolutely the entire group why would you think that it applies to the entire group with out exception?

"Catholics revere the monster Mother Teresa" now needs to become "only a vast majority of Catholics revere the monster Mother Teresa"?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Really?
What, exactly , would be a sufficiently high percentage?

90% ?
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No, not really. The Turtle moves in mysterious ways. That was pretty obviously a sarcastic comment.

75% to 85% of self-identifying Republicans think the country is moving in the right direction and state that they think Trump is doing swell. Since the only changes in the country in the past seven months have been the divisiveness and reprehensible policy changes put through by the Turd Blossom and his minions, I think we're real safe in saying "Republicans". If so-called Republicans are not happy to be associated with Trumpism, then maybe, like Kasich, they should start looking at a benchmark by which they will decide that the Republican party has left them so it's time to look elsewhere.

Frankly, I'm tired of the last sixteen years of "Well, he's not my idea of Republican" as the party nominates more and more worthless and hateful people who then subsequently appoint incrementally worse people to run our country and as the party allows the lunatics to run more and more of the remaining semi-decent candidates off. These "deniers" still get out there and vote for them and support their programs. Who the **** do you people think you're voting for? Bill Scranton and Nelson Rockefeller aren't running. It's Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Ted Cruz, and the like.
 
Foolmewunz said:
No, not really. The Turtle moves in mysterious ways. That was pretty obviously a sarcastic comment.

75% to 85% of self-identifying Republicans think the country is moving in the right direction and state that they think Trump is doing swell. Since the only changes in the country in the past seven months have been the divisiveness and reprehensible policy changes put through by the Turd Blossom and his minions, I think we're real safe in saying "Republicans". If so-called Republicans are not happy to be associated with Trumpism, then maybe, like Kasich, they should start looking at a benchmark by which they will decide that the Republican party has left them so it's time to look elsewhere.

Frankly, I'm tired of the last sixteen years of "Well, he's not my idea of Republican" as the party nominates more and more worthless and hateful people who then subsequently appoint incrementally worse people to run our country and as the party allows the lunatics to run more and more of the remaining semi-decent candidates off. These "deniers" still get out there and vote for them and support their programs. Who the **** do you people think you're voting for? Bill Scranton and Nelson Rockefeller aren't running. It's Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Ted Cruz, and the like.
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Hey if candidate Romney had been more like Governor Romney I could see these people getting behind him.
 
"In for a penny, in for a pound"

which would mean that Republicans should care about what .4% of their supporters do.
 
Foolmewunz said:
75% to 85% of self-identifying Republicans think the country is moving in the right direction and state that they think Trump is doing swell. Since the only changes in the country in the past seven months have been the divisiveness and reprehensible policy changes put through by the Turd Blossom and his minions, I think we're real safe in saying "Republicans". If so-called Republicans are not happy to be associated with Trumpism, then maybe, like Kasich, they should start looking at a benchmark by which they will decide that the Republican party has left them so it's time to look elsewhere.
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Is it possible that these respondants don't see Trump's actions and rhetoric the same way we do? I wonder how they would characterise them. Probably not as divisive and reprehensible, racist or whatever.
 
Argumemnon said:
Is it possible that these respondants don't see Trump's actions and rhetoric the same way we do? I wonder how they would characterise them. Probably not as divisive and reprehensible, racist or whatever.
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From what I've seen among the conservatives I know, the remaining Trump supporters tend to fall into two camps:

1. "FAKE NEWS! The MSM is slandering the President with misrepresent quotes!"

2. "YES! He's one of US! Soon we'll get to lynch those uppity ******* again!"
 
halleyscomet said:
From what I've seen among the conservatives I know, the remaining Trump supporters tend to fall into two camps:

1. "FAKE NEWS! The MSM is slandering the President with misrepresent quotes!"

2. "YES! He's one of US! Soon we'll get to lynch those uppity ******* again!"
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Another camp:

3. "Stop obstructing the President!"

What that means I have no idea. As far as I can tell the only one preventing Trump from succeeding is Trump.
 
halleyscomet said:
From what I've seen among the conservatives I know, the remaining Trump supporters tend to fall into two camps:

1. "FAKE NEWS! The MSM is slandering the President with misrepresent quotes!"

2. "YES! He's one of US! Soon we'll get to lynch those uppity ******* again!"
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I read where Ben Stein observed that the news media is doing to Trump what they did to Nixon. Good. That's excellent.
 
Craig4 said:
I read where Ben Stein observed that the news media is doing to Trump what they did to Nixon. Good. That's excellent.
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Ben Stein was a Nixon speechwriter and never stopped being a notorious Nixon apologist. Blaming "the media" is straight out of the Trump playbook.
 
Spindrift said:
Another camp:

3. "Stop obstructing the President!"

What that means I have no idea. As far as I can tell the only one preventing Trump from succeeding is Trump.
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That and the fact Trump's promises were largely unachievable, even if he'd had the vaguest idea how to go about achieving them.
 
Foolmewunz said:
No, not really. The Turtle moves in mysterious ways. That was pretty obviously a sarcastic comment.

75% to 85% of self-identifying Republicans think the country is moving in the right direction and state that they think Trump is doing swell. Since the only changes in the country in the past seven months have been the divisiveness and reprehensible policy changes put through by the Turd Blossom and his minions, I think we're real safe in saying "Republicans". If so-called Republicans are not happy to be associated with Trumpism, then maybe, like Kasich, they should start looking at a benchmark by which they will decide that the Republican party has left them so it's time to look elsewhere.

Frankly, I'm tired of the last sixteen years of "Well, he's not my idea of Republican" as the party nominates more and more worthless and hateful people who then subsequently appoint incrementally worse people to run our country and as the party allows the lunatics to run more and more of the remaining semi-decent candidates off. These "deniers" still get out there and vote for them and support their programs. Who the **** do you people think you're voting for? Bill Scranton and Nelson Rockefeller aren't running. It's Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Ted Cruz, and the like.
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Has the number of self-identifying Republicans remained stable, or is it decreasing?
 
Spindrift said:
Another camp:

3. "Stop obstructing the President!"

What that means I have no idea. As far as I can tell the only one preventing Trump from succeeding is Trump.
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I think that the Republicans in Congress failed spectacularly in their Obamacare repeal efforts. It's not a problem that Trump's been able to solve, but those guys were pretty much garbage before Trump ever came to power.
 
Civet said:
I think that the Republicans in Congress failed spectacularly in their Obamacare repeal efforts. It's not a problem that Trump's been able to solve, but those guys were pretty much garbage before Trump ever came to power.
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Trump promised repeal and replace, the Republicans in Congress never wanted to replace. He screwed them.
 
Spindrift said:
Trump promised repeal and replace, the Republicans in Congress never wanted to replace. He screwed them.
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I'm sure that a lot of them probably would like to just repeal the ACA and be done with it, but they promised to "repeal and replace" way back in their Pledge to America years before Trump oozed into power. He just echoed their language and added some nonsense about how great it was going to be.
 
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