Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[Johanabrahams]

Forgive me or don't; give me this "grace" or don't. That's your affair. I'm neither harmed by your lack of grace or forgiveness nor aided by it. I won't apologize however. What I said was a fair inference based on what you wrote.

No problem. So what did I write that brought you to that conclusion?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Your "grace" is not only impotent, it doesn't exist for you to grant to anyone.

Your forgiveness, likewise.

No you are wrong. I have to grant it to Craig4 seeing that he took the death of Tom out of context and put it into his context. Creating an illusion that I am a "murderer". So for a long time he enjoyed having "caught me out" and "knowing" why Robertson got the court orders.

And now he acts as if he made no mistake. If it was me making it. And I so clearly wrote about my and God having "sex" killing Tom as human being and resurrect him as a godly being.

But he missed it. He missed "sex" while he likes to speak about "dicks" and "cocks" etc.?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Well, if we're being pedantic... we can't thank God for anything, since he's a fairy tale character.

Only to you. Everything happening here is just a "fairy tale".

But you sure do like "fairy tales".

Others might be learning something real. So they have a better reason to be here than you.

 

[Johanabrahams]

What "spirit"? The brain does the thinking, the consciousness, the memory and the feelings. What's the spirit do?

The spirit is the area where feelings/spirits/angels have contact with the body. There you perseive feelings. Some call it your heart because it appears to be in the center of your body. Approximately where your heart is situated. That is far from your brain.

Next time you "feel" something just make sure you note the position.

You admit to proving my point that you have no thought of your own?

Nope I said I have Godly thoughts now.

They sound suspiciously like deluded human thoughts.

In your judgment yes.

I really don't.

Why not?

 

[Johanabrahams]

That is called respect. Respecting the privacy of those with whom I have communicated is required.

Yep they asked you to say nothing. It is just for you and them to know. But you went there on behalf of all here.

If you learned a little respect, it might go a long way.

If you knew it about respect you would not have made a pact with evil. Speaking behind my back about "bad" things that I did. And then come here and tell everybody about the "bad" things I did. But having no facts for the "bad" things that I did. But the facts are there you said. But you are not allowed to speak about the facts.

That was a "bad" incident.

I forgive you for your "bad" initiative. You were caught with "bad" to become "bad".

The reason is that we are not suppose to hide evil. I did very wrong things you said. And you have the witnesses. So you all have to speak. But where are they? Hiding away. For what reason? You think that is for a good reason? Hiding facts about wrong?

As I said. You are ignorant. But Christians know that they were busy becoming "false accusers" which is "evil".

2Ti 3:2* For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,*
2Ti 3:3* Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,*

And they caught you. And now you are also there with them. Evil gathered together. And you can not come out of your corner. You "made an agreement" with evil. To be a "false accuser".

Well accept your corner. You speak about something but you have nothing. How does that feel?

This "hiding away" is already going on for 17 years now. No solution. Why is there no solution. Because you are all hiding away from your own evil.

You are all in your corners. Hiding away.

God spoke about it.

Isa 2:19* And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.*

Now, how about you start with square one. Demonstrate that this god of yours exists. If you are unable to do that then all of your other claims are useless.

It is just there. Right in front of you. I am "shaking terribly the earth". And 4000 whites are hiding away. From one man. And evil man. But the only evil he is doing is forgiving the wrong. All hiding away for forgiveness. And you can not see it. That is remarkable. Your blindness is severe.

 

[abaddon]

Is anyone actually following his random links?

If so what the hell are they?

Yes, and they are nonsense where actual christians point out his heresy and eventually ban him. Somehow, this persecution complex is supposed to convince somebody of something.

Amidst, or betwixt, or some other mangling of english as she is goodly spoke, our OP has steadfastly refused to demonstrate that any god of any description actually exists. I wonder why that is?

 

[abaddon]

Craig4 didn't try to make me out as a "murderer"?

You claimed to have murdered "Tom", remember? And really, you have flat out told us that you put your own mother in an early grave, and harassed and abused your former wife and children to the extent that they were forced to seek legal redress.

I am not making this up. You have stated so both here and elsewhere. In fact, I have verified with others that this is indeed what you actually did.

And you are proud of that?

 

[abaddon]

That is called respect. Respecting the privacy of those with whom I have communicated is required.

Yep they asked you to say nothing. It is just for you and them to know. But you went there on behalf of all.

Wrong. They asked me not to identify individuals for fear of your violence.

If you learned a little respect, it might go a long way.

If you knew it about respect you would not have made a pact with evil. Speaking behind my back about "bad" things that I did. And then come here and tell everybody about the "bad" things I did. But having no facts for the "bad" things that I did. But the facts are there you said. But you are not allowed to say. That was a "bad" incident.

Bollocks. I have made no "pact with evil". That is entirely in your lurid imagination.

I forgive you for your "bad" initiative. You were caught with "bad" to become "bad".

Load of rubbish.

The reason is that we are not suppose to hide evil. I did very wrong things you said. And you have the witnesses. So where are they? Hiding away. For what reason. You think that is for a good reason?

Yes. I know what you did. It wasn't godly.

As I said. You are ignorant. But Christians know that they were busy with "false accusers" which is "evil".

And what do you do with true accusers?

2Ti 3:2* For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,*
2Ti 3:3* Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,*

Meaningless bible-babble.

And they caught you. And now you are also there with them. Evil gathered together. And you can not come out of your corner. You "made an agreement" with evil. To be a "false accuser".

It is a matter of record. I made no agreement with anyone in this matter.

Well accept your corner. You speak about something but you have nothing. How does that feel?

How does it feel? Satisfying. Pointing out internet cranks and their abject nonsense is not only justified, I consider it a moral imperative.

This "hiding away" is already going on for 17 years now. No solution. Why is there no solution. Because you are all hiding away from your own evil.

Is it? Then why are you running away from demonstrating that any god exists? Let alone your borked version of god.

You are all in your corners. Hiding away.

Really? Why are you so scared at the prospect that any god exists let alone your messed up version? Why can't you answer that?

God spoke about it.

No, he didn't

Isa 2:19*

Sorry, barfing random gigle quotes means nothing.

Now, how about you start with square one. Demonstrate that this god of yours exists. If you are unable to do that then all of your other claims are useless.

It is just there. Right in front of you. I am "shaking terribly the earth". And 4000 whites are hiding away. From one man.

Wow. Abject racism. No, your former pastors, neighbours and family have rejected you and you plainly cannot handle it.

So how about you demonstrate that any god exists, let alone your peculiar god? You seem to be avoiding that.

 

[TofuFighter]

Yes, and they are nonsense where actual christians point out his heresy and eventually ban him. Somehow, this persecution complex is supposed to convince somebody of something.

Amidst, or betwixt, or some other mangling of english as she is goodly spoke, our OP has steadfastly refused to demonstrate that any god of any description actually exists. I wonder why that is?

Errr, I believe you stand corrected:

It is just there. Right in front of you. I am "shaking terribly the earth". And 4000 whites are hiding away. From one man. And evil man. But the only evil he is doing is forgiving the wrong. All hiding away for forgiveness. And you can not see it. That is remarkable. Your blindness is severe.

I mean, honestly. If that doesn't clarify it for you then nothing he says ever will.

All this sudden action of taking people to task for misconceptions he deliberately created smacks of lunacy.

 

[Johanabrahams]

lol. Looks like the real Johan Abrahams comes out after a few drinks.
I guess your 'declaration of victory' in this post reflects how you've done the same in your conflicts in Robertson.

Well why should I suddenly change?

It's true though, that the dishonesty of your words when you're feigning godliness causes others, and certainly me, to say things that we might not ordinarily say, or to be less respectful than we might ordinarily be to people.

Are you sure it is me to blame for your lack of "forgiveness" and resorting to retaliation which looks very "ugly".

I recognise that. That's something that I can fix and I'll do that on my own terms.

At least you realize that it is only you and yourself that needs to change. Because it will surely benefit you. No use trying to work on me and think you will benefit. That will bring you no benefit. You are starting to walk the correct way. Stick to it.

As for you, I suspect you'll retreat to being the passive-aggressive god again, pretending not to recognise sarcasm, pretending not to understand what's being said to you, and rolling out your tired, worn-out preaching of how forgiving you are of those who have wronged you and the town of Robertson

Yep. Seeing that I have self control I will just stick with it. Lack of self control takes you into corners.

Remember that? How your wife and Die Herberg and Pastor van Eck and Dr Lamprecht and your 'friends' all wronged you. And how you forgive them.

Yep. I clearly remember. And they too. But they do not have your insight yet. Maybe you can point them the way?

And now the internet.

Yep. Just right over the world. All needs to meet with "forgiveness" and self control.

Your wife seems to have raised two good children.

Do you not think you should ask her?

I do not know how you can do that without a husband. Maybe she can tell us.

Maybe you should rather get some advice from her about how to be a mother and a good person instead of insisting on this poorly-acted charade.

So do you not think I have reason to forgive her?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Well, that's bound to offend a lot of religious folks.

Yep. And they will have to live with themselves and their "offended" spirit.
And tha will not help them to live a "godly life". Losers again.

 

[abaddon]

<snip for brevity>

Well you have to see it from our perspective. As far far as we know, your former wife had to be protected from you as did your kid/s (one, maybe two, you're kind of fuzzy on that?) Your entire township eject you and sought the protection of the law due to your violence, as is recorded in court records as you agree. You believe in a god which you are unable to provide the slightest evidence for. You claim variously to be that god, or the wife of that god, or the son of that god, or all of our mothers, or who knows what. At this point, it's hard to tell what your claims might be.

And so I return to my question. Can you demonstrate that any god of any description actually exists? So far, the answer is no, you cannot.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Hey, god, you posted a broken link. well done.

Strange. It is working for me.

But here is it again.

https://web.facebook.com/photo.php?....247361635366343.36890.100002775263058&type=3

And if it is not working again try the next one and take a look at my son and his mother. There is some comments there also.

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola#

 

[fagin]

God fail

"Sorry, this content isn't available at the moment
The link you followed may have expired, or the Page may only be visible to an audience that you aren't in."

In the other one I just see a drunk guy and his drunk friend.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Another thread where actual christians pointed out your heresy.

And how did they do that?

How can anyone "hate" an imaginary being that does not exist?

It is not about us hating God. It is about God that "hate"

How about you first demonstrate that any god exists?

Seems you missed the "demonstration"

 

[abaddon]

Strange. It is working for me.

But here is it again.

https://web.facebook.com/photo.php?....247361635366343.36890.100002775263058&type=3

Still broken. You really are unable to figure out this internet stuff. Which is odd, because you claim "god" as your guide. So god can't figure out the internet either.

And if it is not working again try the next one and take a look at my son and his mother. There is some comments there also.

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola#

Wow. That's incoherent.

So how about you provide evidence for any god at all? You keep avoiding this question. Why? Don't you have any?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Oh, I understand perfectly, and jealousy has nothing to do with it.

Good. Ask if you miss something.

It's entertainment, a circus, a French bedroom farce with religion.

Glad there is something to enjoy.

That's why viewership may be growing: word is spreading that there's a real live chew-toy back in town, and people are queueing up at the popcorn machines.

Glad you see the amount of people coming. A benefit to the forum in general.

BTW, its not your province to tell someone to go start their own thread.

I never told you that. I just gave advice if you do not like this thread and want to get it closed down.

This isn't your thread, it belongs to the forum and its membership, subject to the MA as interpreted by the moderators.

Yep. Agree. But I was speaking about something else. You keep mentioning the fact that some speak against it and it not being suited for this forum.

You got a problem with a post, report it; the mods will take it from there.

I sort out my problems with the help of God. Do not need to run for help to others. But it did seem to me that you want to go to them?

Come to think of it, didn't you highjack this thread?

And why do you think that?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Johan is the worst false/fake prophet/god since Paul Bethke.

So there is a running for last of last by us?

It's not even entertaining in the way cosmos thread are.

Well you are here now. You can help with that.

 

[abaddon]

So there is a running for last of last by us?



Well you are here now. You can help with that.

And here you are now with no evidence that any god exists.

It is amusing that you refuse to defend the existence of your deity of choice, let alone any of the other thousands of claimed deities.

Why is that?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Great. you can demonstrate the some god exists. Please do so.

I am busy with that.

Oh, now satan does not exist. OK.

Yep. All the bad things come by humans.

Why? And if jebus is alive, did he really die at all?

Yep. His body died. Just as yours will. Not the spirit. That can not. And same with yours. The worms are going to feast on it but your spirit the real you is living forever.

Why does jebus hate figs?

He doesn't. And why can you not say Jesus. Seems that name strike a nerve.

IWhat a load. You have yet to demonstrate that any god exists. Allah has more evidence despite being more imaginary.

You said it already.

Err. the modern world is demonstrably better Why do you want to revert to the hunter/gatherer baloney?

Never did that.

No. You keep alluding to the notion that all of us atheists really believe in a spooky bloke in the sky. We don't.

I know.

Nope. Because you have yet to even try to establish that the bible thug even exists in the first place.

So why is He a "thug" now?

That's funny. Be what you want, but be a mindless slave to a myth.

Nope. I have a mind. But why do you think I do not have one?