Brexit: Now What? Part III

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Aber said:
Does the US have a centralised Government system for collecting payroll taxes at source in real-time?
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"Real time" is a misnomer, it's just a more frequent reporting period.

The same exact data exists in every U.S. business. I can look up my payroll data in real time at both of my current jobs through online HR portals. The reporting period depends on how the business is registered. Some report yearly, semi-annually, quarterly, or monthly.

Yes, some undocumented workers collect pay under false documents, but the vast majority are paid under the table, not on an official payroll. On paper, it would probably look like a service fee paid to a temp agency or private contractors (no I-9s, no 1040s, cash for services provided).
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
If Northern Ireland can have an open EU border with no custom checks then Scotland will demand one too. Cat meet pigeons.
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Sympathetic as I would be to that demand, the two situations are not the same. Scotland doesn't have a land border with an EU country,isn't covered by an intergovernmental treaty involving an EU country's government as co-guarantor, and doesn't have a growing minority in its midst who want to join another EU country.
 
Strawberry said:
Sympathetic as I would be to that demand, the two situations are not the same. Scotland doesn't have a land border with an EU country,isn't covered by an intergovernmental treaty involving an EU country's government as co-guarantor, and doesn't have a growing minority in its midst who want to join another EU country.
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None of which would matter if the argument is that if one country can have such an arrangement then it's possible for another country to have the arrangement.

The UK government position so far seems to have been that it's not possible for Scotland to have such an arrangement - if they are required to change their position to 'it's possible, but we aren't going to let you have it' then the cat is introduced to the pigeons.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
None of which would matter if the argument is that if one country can have such an arrangement then it's possible for another country to have the arrangement.

The UK government position so far seems to have been that it's not possible for Scotland to have such an arrangement - if they are required to change their position to 'it's possible, but we aren't going to let you have it' then the cat is introduced to the pigeons.
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Yes and I would be entirely sympathetic to that cat, (the cat being Scotland). However, the fact remains that any half competent politician could make the case that NI is different to the rest of the UK in that it has a land border, the GFA, etc etc and therefore will have a different arrangement with the EU post Brexit.

This government won't do it because they don't have anyone half competent on their front bench, apart from Phillip Hammond and he's outnumbered.
 
Strawberry said:
Yes and I would be entirely sympathetic to that cat, (the cat being Scotland). However, the fact remains that any half competent politician could make the case that NI is different to the rest of the UK in that it has a land border, the GFA, etc etc and therefore will have a different arrangement with the EU post Brexit.

This government won't do it because they don't have anyone half competent on their front bench, apart from Phillip Hammond and he's outnumbered.
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The SNP won't want to make that case. The government might want to make that case, but it'd be a stretch to call them competent politicians.
 
Aber said:
Nope, under PAYE RTI in the UK, reports need to submitted before payments are made to employees.
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I don't get paid until Friday but right now I could tell you exactly how much it will be and how much is taken out in various taxes.

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Information Analyst said:
Significant more for the messenger than the message.
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I'm not so sure, the Mail on Sunday has been Remain since before the referendum.

I have previously linked to a Eurosceptic blogger who has been pointing out for months how much of a fiasco the UK government's approach is.

Can I recall the website, or find my posts? You don't need to be psychic to know the answer to this.
 
Darat said:
I think it will take a rather lot of effort to let Scotland have a land border with a EU country....
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How much effort would it take for Scotland, having left the UK, to BE an EU country? A soft or non existent border between (inside EU) Scotland and (outside EU) England could then be applied, as seemingly this can be done in Ireland, and one of the scary objections to independence - border controls at Gretna - would be dispelled.
 
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There's Gibraltar too. Not getting much attention because it's so small - and there's always been a hard border there - even though it's between two EU countries at present.
 
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