Merged Things that Bubba finds interesting or newsworthy

[bruto]

Excuse me for not opening a link from a clickbait site that includes news that the zombie apocalypse has arrived, and other such newsworthy items, so perhaps you would be so kind as to say who "they" are.

 

[carlitos]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/TruthStreamMedia

TruthStreamMedia is a "news" website run by Aaron and Melissa Dykes. It promotes both conspiracy theories and pseudoscience, such as "bioengineering" vaccines[1] and "eugenicist" water.[2] They also seem to think that mind control is real[3], and other general ********.

Aaron Dykes was the cinematographer for the Alex Jones-directed film, TerrorStorm: A History of Government-Sponsored Terrorism (2006).[4]

 

[EvilBiker]

On their homepage it appears that Aaron and Melissa Dykes have been digging in various areas. Here is one item they produced

Perhaps if they avoided slightly swampy sub-level areas with lots of luxuriant foliage and mosquitoes, they would produce something other than second-hand effluent?

I only seek to enlighten...

 

[carlitos]

"Back in 1971, THEY^TM just admitted that vaccines were ineffective .... on the nightly news"

 

[fagin]

Bubba's playpen. Cute.

 

[ahhell]

https://gimletmedia.com/science-vs/

Their latest episode covered something along these lines. Not quite but close. In the 70s there was a guy who got a lot of attention talking up the dangers of vaccines and some evidence of vaccine induced epilepsy.

Any rate, a little truth and a lot of scare mongering.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

So we are supposed to believe a report on vaccines almost a half century ago is applicable to today's vaccines? And it's a news report, not even a peer reviewed study, no less.

 

[Axxman300]

As a victim of molestation when I was a kid, I'm not going to pretend to be nice about this.

First you have to separate fact from fiction...

Facts:

There are pedophile groups around the world. NAMBLA is the best known because they are an advocacy group. Mexican Cartels, and other organized crime syndicates participate in molestation as well as use it as blackmail.

Hollywood has a long, confirmed history of pedophilia. I'm a resident of California, I know folks working in the industry. The problem is as bad as you think it is.

Prosecuting molestation cases is often difficult due to the ages of the victims, reluctance to testify, or unwillingness to press charges.

The one of the things that makes prosecution hard, and allows real child predators to walk free is the thinking found in pedophile CTs. Once you go down the CT rabbit-hole you've surrendered fact for hearsay. The prime example remains the McMartin Preschool Trial, an entire case built on the lies of a Pedo CTist shrink. For a decade after all any defense attorney had to do was point to McMartin and their clients walked, guilty or not.

Now if Bob Hope has a history then I want names of accusers, I want to see those check-stubs where he paid for their silence. If you can't provide these then you have to wait until you can, or accept that it might not be true. Buying into Pedo-CT's is lazy. You think you're helping by spreading the word, but you're doing nothing. There are real pedophiles out there that you can actually stop by making sure your kids and their friends have the guts to follow through and report the crime. You can send letters and attend townhall meetings with your city, state, and federal representatives to make sure that law enforcement has all the resources they need to catch these people and put them away.

People spreading pedophile CT's are part of the problem.

 

[Bubba]

So we are supposed to believe a report on vaccines almost a half century ago is applicable to today's vaccines? And it's a news report, not even a peer reviewed study, no less.

The video shows footage proving examples of how you have been deceived by govt officials running public health programs, vaccines in this case. Thats all.

A news report can contain footage of one of the officials admitting later that they continued vaccinations for some years while not disclosing that they (Division of Biologic Standards knew it contained a known carcinogen. Or that two of the doctors there got fired for saying they would not give an influenza vaccine to their own kids because the Division knew it was ineffective.


Mostly the video contains examples of how those in charge of vaccination programs lie about it. In that sense, its nothing new. Just uncovering and video-documenting more examples of govt lies about public health programs.

 

[MikeG]

The video shows footage proving examples of how you have been deceived by govt officials running public health programs, vaccines in this case. Thats all.

A news report can contain footage of one of the officials admitting later that they continued vaccinations for some years while not disclosing that they (Division of Biologic Standards knew it contained a known carcinogen. Or that two of the doctors there got fired for saying they would not give an influenza vaccine to their own kids because the Division knew it was ineffective.


Mostly the video contains examples of how those in charge of vaccination programs lie about it. In that sense, its nothing new. Just uncovering and video-documenting more examples of govt lies about public health programs.

You know that vaccination works, and has transformed human life expectancy, don't you? You know that smallpox, whooping cough, polio and so on were a blight on generations, killing and maiming millions around the world, don't you? You know that to say otherwise is lying, don't you?

You see, Bubba, you've fallen for the lies of the lunatics in the anti-vaxxing movement, and can't critically examine either their claims, or the actual verifiable figures of those saved from dreadful diseases by vaccination.....yet you claim to be able to spot government "lies" from miles away. Your intellectual position looks ridiculous.

 

[Capsid]

What's the carcinogen?

 

[fagin]

What's the carcinogen?

Sooper sekrit bad stuff.

 

[ddt]

What's the carcinogen?

I don't watch Bubba's videos, but my guess is SV40, the same one he started a thread about last week.

 

[Henri McPhee]

I don't have practical experience of this child abuse matter and I agree that it's necessary to separate fact from fiction. It's just that I'm convinced there are more offences against children than ever reach the courts. Like prostitution, all the police can do is prevent it from becoming a public scandal. Their priority seems to be drugs and terrorists. There are different ages of consent in various countries. I agree that the mainstream media is hamstrung by the libel laws, and allegations against prominent people seem to surface after they are dead.

Things may be different in America but there have been rumors for decades in Private Eye magazine in the UK about child sex ring scandals in orphanages in Wales and Jersey and Scotland and Northern Ireland and Rotherham sometimes involving MI5 and people in high places.

I agree also that the McMartin scandal seemed to fizzle out, though personally I don't think there is smoke without fire. There was a nasty case in my own city of an Iranian refugee who was brutally murdered after being suspected of being a pedophile without a shred of evidence. One police detective was jailed for his poor investigation and others disciplined.

The rock star Gary Glitter has been jailed in the past and some Welsh rock star who I've never heard of for inappropriate behaviour towards a baby girl. There has been a scandal in which football coaches have been involved in molestation towards young players which is only now coming to light. There is now some huge and expensive inquiry in the UK which is mired in controversy involving all kinds of pedophiles. The main complaint of the victims is that they are not believed and they are accused of being mentally ill and they don't have expensive counsel.

I just think if American presidents have been pedophiles and people like Edward Heath in the UK then the public should not be ill informed and they should not have immunity from prosecution.

 

[Henri McPhee]

There used to be a famous comedy actor in the UK called Arthur Mullard who became involved in this pedophile business. From a Wikipedia:

Personal life[edit]
In 1996, the Sunday Mirror reported that a This Is Your Life special about Mullard was planned, until producers contacted his eldest son and discovered Mullard's history of extreme domestic violence, and years of sexual abuse against his daughter, starting when she was 13.

 

[abaddon]

From the video...

Lie 1: The 1971 flu vaccine was considered ineffective (depends what strains it was made for and what strains were prevalent in 1971) therefore all vaccines are inneffective.

Lie 2: More or less a repeat of lie one with the added claim that said flu vaccine had a carcinogen in it. It was the adenovirus vaccine and it was contaminated. The same vaccine is still in use today.

Lie 3: Polio vaccine causes cancer. They pan across several contemporaneous newspaper clippings, mostly along the theme that some cancer may be cause by viruses not vaccines. Either these morons are illiterate or plain flat out dishonest.

Oh, and SV40 !!!!eleventy!!!

Appeal to emotion: "Wont somebody think of the children?"

Correlation/causation mix-up: 1 in two Americans will develop cancer. Must be vaccines, ignore longevity and other causes.

Back to flu vaccines: Whistle blower scientists are transferred, fired or otherwise suppressed.

Sins of omission: No scientist named, no papers cited, no consideration to diseases prevented, no statistical anything at all, nothing of substance.

In short, the video is utter bollocks.

 

[Henri McPhee]

There was rather a sad case of this pedophile business involving the war hero Field Marshal Sir William Slim who was given the job of Governor General of Australia after the war. From a Wikipedia:

Allegations of child sexual abuse[edit]

During his tenure as Governor-General of Australia, Slim was patron of the Fairbridge Farm child migration to Australia, which has been subject to scrutiny in recent years both in the United Kingdom and Australia. Since 2007, three former child migrants allege Slim sexually assaulted them during visits to the farms.[75]

These allegations were dismissed out of hand at that time by those who had served under Slim in the army and by his son John Slim, 2nd Viscount Slim.[76]

The allegations were aired again on ABC television in the programme The Long Journey Home, broadcast on 17 November 2009.[77]

In 2014, the Daily Mail reported that an alleged victim was pursuing the matter in an Australian court and at the Royal Commission into Institutional Child Abuse.[78]

On 27 February 2017, ABC aired another programme detailing the allegations against Slim and Fairbridge Farm, of which the Queen's uncle, Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester, was chairman. According to one estimate by a former pupil and journalist, David Hill, some 60 percent of children who went to Fairbridge were abused.[79]

Somehow or another, I was sat on his [Slim's] knee and, ah, um, these silky white hands were right up, because I was wearing shorts, right up my trousers and yeah, it was not, not very nice.
— Robert Stephens recounting a drive in Governor-General Slim's car, 2017

 

[commandlinegamer]

Unfortunately, it's quite possible for a single individual of dubious reputation to spread all sorts of misinformation and to be taken seriously by a significant percentage of the population, cf Nigel Farage.

 

[Axxman300]

I don't have practical experience of this child abuse matter and I agree that it's necessary to separate fact from fiction. It's just that I'm convinced there are more offences against children than ever reach the courts.

Yes, there are many crimes against children that never get reported, or prosecuted. The case against the man who molested me was one of them. This was 1975, a different world for sure, and they didn't feel the case was strong enough. Many victims never report at all out of fear or shame or both.

Like prostitution, all the police can do is prevent it from becoming a public scandal.

Not in the US.

There are cops dedicated to smoking these guys out who are not even working in Vice - they're crusaders. Every department has one.

There are different ages of consent in various countries.

Yup.

I agree that the mainstream media is hamstrung by the libel laws, and allegations against prominent people seem to surface after they are dead.

It's not that they're hamstrung, they have a legal responsibility to get the facts right before they run a story. Sometimes they go the other way, or are split on a suspect. Micheal Jackson is an example where he is mostly celebrated today, but nobody has brought up his published FBI file that has information that never made headlines.

Things may be different in America but there have been rumors for decades in Private Eye magazine in the UK about child sex ring scandals in orphanages in Wales and Jersey and Scotland and Northern Ireland and Rotherham sometimes involving MI5 and people in high places.

Rumors. Be careful of rumors. Always look first to the people starting them and advancing them.

I agree also that the McMartin scandal seemed to fizzle out, though personally I don't think there is smoke without fire.

And this is the problem. There was no molestation, no smoke, no fire. Yet I hear this line of thinking when it comes to this case and it is not based on any fact whatsoever.

The rock star Gary Glitter has been jailed in the past and some Welsh rock star who I've never heard of for inappropriate behaviour towards a baby girl. There has been a scandal in which football coaches have been involved in molestation towards young players which is only now coming to light.

Yes, all individual cases.

I just think if American presidents have been pedophiles and people like Edward Heath in the UK then the public should not be ill informed and they should not have immunity from prosecution

No US President has been a pedophile. Again, look at the people making the allegations. In this case they have zero credibility and zero facts.

 

[WhatRoughBeast]

So tell us, Bubba, what you think of the Muslim clerics in Nigeria who objected to polio vaccinations because they cause sterility?