Senate Committee Q&A on HAARP Future

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Senate Committee Q&A on HAARP Future

...Dr. Walker (USAF) said

“We’re moving on to other ways of managing the ionosphere, which the HAARP was really designed to do,” he said. “To inject energy into the ionosphere to be able to actually control it. But that work has been completed.”

video
Murkowski Committee Q&A on HAARP Future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX3IOHpe6sY


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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/HAARP

For the lurkers that don't know what HAARP is.


Different views:

from rationalwiki:

"The HAARP facility is essentially a large radio transmitter and antenna located in Alaska designed to operate in the shortwave band.."


from USAF's Dr Walker at Senate Committee Q&A on HAARP Future


"..which the HAARP was really designed to do,” ... “To inject energy into the ionosphere to be able to actually control it.


Chances are that USAF's Dr Walker knows more about what HAARP is. (in addition to what rationalwiki knows about it)
 
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Makes sense that the true purpose of HAARP would be hidden behind a cover story... "a large radio transmitter and antenna, and for radio contact with submarines.." Why would they want their adversaries (and taxpayers) to know they plan to control the ionosphere?

Not surprising that an Air Force HAARP scientist would spill the beans while answering budget related questions for senators. His remarks imply they no longer need HAARP because they now have other ways to control the ionosphere.
 
I'm sorry, what is the point of posting this 3 year old video where Dr. Walker admits to doing exactly what they've always said they were doing with HAARP?
 
Makes sense that the true purpose of HAARP would be hidden behind a cover story... "a large radio transmitter and antenna, and for radio contact with submarines.." Why would they want their adversaries (and taxpayers) to know they plan to control the ionosphere?

Not surprising that an Air Force HAARP scientist would spill the beans while answering budget related questions for senators. His remarks imply they no longer need HAARP because they now have other ways to control the ionosphere.



Uhm, that was never hidden behind a cover story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_...esearch_Program#Instrumentation_and_operation


The IRI is used to temporarily energize a small portion of the ionosphere. The study of these disturbed volumes yields important information for understanding natural ionospheric processes.

During active ionospheric research, the signal generated by the transmitter system is delivered to the antenna array and transmitted in an upward direction. At an altitude between 70 to 350 km (43 to 217 mi) (depending on operating frequency), the signal is partially absorbed in a small volume several tens of kilometers in diameter and a few meters thick over the IRI. The intensity of the HF signal in the ionosphere is less than 3 µW/cm², tens of thousands of times less than the Sun's natural electromagnetic radiation reaching the earth and hundreds of times less than even the normal random variations in intensity of the Sun's natural ultraviolet (UV) energy which creates the ionosphere. The small effects that are produced, however, can be observed with the sensitive scientific instruments installed at the HAARP Station, and these observations can provide information about the dynamics of plasmas and insight into the processes of solar-terrestrial interactions.[23]


"Controlling the ionosphere", or at least, a small part of it, was the whole point of HAARP, all along. It's that control that would have enabled the communicating with submarines and all that.

It's the delusional notion that doing that can somehow be "weaponized" to control weather or cause earthquakes that's the issue here.
 
Uhm, that was never hidden behind a cover story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_...esearch_Program#Instrumentation_and_operation





"Controlling the ionosphere", or at least, a small part of it, was the whole point of HAARP, all along. It's that control that would have enabled the communicating with submarines and all that.

It's the delusional notion that doing that can somehow be "weaponized" to control weather or cause earthquakes that's the issue here.


Uhm, Nope. (I had it wrong)

You must have missed the memo, here it is...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/HAARP

For the lurkers that don't know what HAARP is.

Quote:
"The HAARP facility is essentially a large radio transmitter and antenna located in Alaska designed to operate in the shortwave band.."
 
Different views:

from rationalwiki:




from USAF's Dr Walker at Senate Committee Q&A on HAARP Future





Chances are that USAF's Dr Walker knows more about what HAARP is. (in addition to what rationalwiki knows about it)
Ah yes, I remember when this came out the local CTer on my football forum was proudly strutting around at the thought of being right all along...

Then I asked two questions. I'd like to ask the same here if you don't mind

What do you think radio transmitters do?

What do you think radio waves are?
 
Uhm, Nope. (I had it wrong)

You must have missed the memo, here it is...


I didn't miss it, you misunderstood it.


Here's a hint:

What do you think radio transmitters do?

What do you think radio waves are?



Answer these questions, and you just might get a clue.

I'll admit that's a low probability, but there's a chance....
 
Different views:
from rationalwiki:
from USAF's Dr Walker at Senate Committee Q&A on HAARP Future

Chances are that USAF's Dr Walker knows more about what HAARP is. (in addition to what rationalwiki knows about it)

You have no idea what you are talking about.

As 332nd pointed out, the first quoted item describes the mechanism for the second quoted item. But because you are so gullible and so willing to promote idiot conspiracy "theories", you assumed they were somehow contradictory. They're not.

Makes sense that the true purpose of HAARP would be hidden behind a cover story... "a large radio transmitter and antenna, and for radio contact with submarines.."

It's not a cover story; communication research was one of the stated primary purposes for HAARP, why the military funded it in the first place, and what the actual research supports.

Why would they want their adversaries (and taxpayers) to know they plan to control the ionosphere?

"Control the ionosphere" is obviously hyperbole to anyone with at least a basic understanding of the subject. HAARP was never capable of controlling the ionosphere; it can affect the local behavior of it by injecting RF energy into a relatively small patch of it over the transmitter. Just the daily variation in the Sun's energy input into the ionosphere dwarfs the energy HAARP is able to inject.

Any of the civilian researchers, including the college students who did summer work there, could have told you that, but you're too lazy and credulous to learn anything about it before respouting other crackpot's drivel for them.

Not surprising that an Air Force HAARP scientist would spill the beans while answering budget related questions for senators.

You're claiming that this man would just casually spill the beans about this super-secret project in an open hearing. That is ridiculous.

Uhm, Nope. (I had it wrong)You must have missed the memo, here it is...

You still have it wrong. That's exactly what HAARP is.

It's clear from this thread that

(1) You have no idea what you're talking about - you don't even understand the basic nature of what HAARP is supposed to do, but you're willingly swallowing and regurgitating conspiracist YouTube drivel, while

(2) supposing that a military officer will casually reveal the supposed true nature of this super-secret project in an open hearing, and

(3) constructing his clearly hyperbolic statement absolutely literally so as to imply total control of the entire ionosphere, while simultaneously

(4) off-handedly dismissing all the detailed technical information that describes exactly what HAARP does actually do, even though you're not even dimly aware of the scope of that information, and you're too ignorant of the subject to understand it if you were.

So, are you really this eagerly gullible, or are you just trolling?
 
Bubba,

My primary degree is in Radio and Telecommunications.

Suggesting that HAARP was anything other than a radio transmitter is utter bollocks.

Don't even think about entertaining such rubbish.
 
Makes sense that the true purpose of HAARP would be hidden behind a cover story... "a large radio transmitter and antenna, and for radio contact with submarines.." Why would they want their adversaries (and taxpayers) to know they plan to control the ionosphere?

Not surprising that an Air Force HAARP scientist would spill the beans while answering budget related questions for senators. His remarks imply they no longer need HAARP because they now have other ways to control the ionosphere.

I'm pretty sure that they were "controlling the ionosphere" so they could use it as a transmitter to talk to submarines. My guess is that since they abandoned it, they've found a better or cheaper way to communicate with submarines (or control the weather or earthquakes, if you really believe that's its purpose).
 
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