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Ed Dueling protests spark state of emergency in Virginia.

quadraginta said:
If this were the case I'd expect we'd be hearing much more in the national media about Deandre Harris who, although not killed by Neo-Nazis, very nearly was. The three men who beat him with sticks put him in the hospital with ... among many other traumas ... severe blood loss. One comment from a hospital employee described him as "very lucky".

Where is all the air time about that black person's treatment?

Many, if not most of the people following the reporting on this incident don't even know that the incident took place, even though the Governor of Virginia is making public demands for the arrest and prosecution of Harris's assailants.
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A caveat: do we know what happened prior to the video? Were the nazis attacking or overkill defending against an attack or what?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You are addressing the wrong point. You need to address private and public property, not whatever your thoughts are about the choice the private citizen makes given his/her right to free speech.
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I did address private v public. At a certain point, it no longer matters. I believe celebrating slavery is well on the no-longer-matters side of that point.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
The way you blithely make a small child complicit in their own extrajudicial homicide is a great example of why your conclusion misses the mark.
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The what's this now? I only recounted the undisputed fact that the kid reached for a realistic looking Airsoft gun in his waistband when confronted by police, and that it was not comparable to a nazi deliberately driving through a crowd. The rest of the baggage is in your head, not mine.

The neonazi online rags were already full of stories of an out of control mob of black thugs beating on his car from all sides with 1-gallon paint cans full of cement. Viola, instant (if completely fabricated) justification. Or they'd have torn into her private life and found that one time she went to the principal's office so clearly she deserved to die. Rationality is not a factor here.
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Who cares what unsupported stories appear on posts? You think that getting your car damaged would be justification for accelerating into a crowd? Coz I don't. No justification there, fabricated or otherwise. Just random internet BS.

You claim rationality is not a factor here. Okay. I posted about public sentiment and media representation, not the player's spin on things. Your comments don't follow from the posts. To us, the observers, rationality should matter.
 
Meadmaker said:
Awesome.

And so, so, stupid.

Thanks for the info.
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"Blood and Soil" was one of the big time slogans in Nazi Germany. You would not be chanting it if you did not want to be identified as a Nazi........

Surprised you did not know this.
 
uke2se said:
An article a lot of people posting in this thread should read:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/ordinary-white-supremacists/index.html

ETA: Tl/dr - an exposé on the types of responses to white supremacists and those that oppose them - all common in this thread - and how we've seen it before during the civil rights movement in the 60s. Basically, how white people can support a white supremacist agenda without really doing anything, and not even be conciously aware of it.
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To be fair, it's only a couple.
 
Argumemnon said:
Sure but those aren't Nazis. They just don't have the same connotation to those things than we have here.

My point is that the swaztika is a religious symbol used extensively in asia, and they're not about to let some asshat in Germany dictate whether they can keep using this millennia-old symbol.
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And it is fun to dress up as nazi's. Like trump said there are plenty of good nazi's.
 
ponderingturtle said:
And it is fun to dress up as nazi's. Like trump said there are plenty of good nazi's.
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Well Kirk and Spock seemed to have a ball of a time dressing up as Nazis in Patterns of Force. How this relates to them being actual Nazis or Trump's claim being true is beyond me, but then your ability to make connections between unrelated factoids continues to baffle me.
 
Argumemnon said:
Well Kirk and Spock seemed to have a ball of a time dressing up as Nazis in Patterns of Force. How this relates to them being actual Nazis or Trump's claim being true is beyond me, but then your ability to make connections between unrelated factoids continues to baffle me.
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And Hitler quotes are great ambiance for your bar, he isn't reviled in parts of the world either.

Though why you would choose a vegetarian like Hitler to brand your fried chicken restaurant on seems more strange.
 
Argumemnon said:
There's a difference between living in a culture where the swaztika is an innocuous religious symbol and being a neo-Nazi who embraces their ideals.

But of course, realising this requires a bit of discernment.
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And in those countries you have rather a lot of people dressing up as Nazi's and putting Hitlers image on things to market them as well.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/tasteless-but-true-made-in-india-hitler-ice-cream-cafe/story-C6usCqTUqv4zAeU30b0GVM.html

http://www.npr.org/2012/12/23/167911062/hitlers-hot-in-india

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Cafe
 
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