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I invited the "Pope"

Seems he is hiding.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/general-discussion-forum/the-fear-of-god-97764/

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=424.23

Same as Robertson:

But I will give you the Word on it:

Isa 2:19* And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.*

And here is the Teaching on it:

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-fear-of-god.8023951/

And my Life is the reality of it.
 
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You're not making any points.

All of your arguments, such as they are, are completely disjointed and your conclusions do not follow from your premises. The links don't support any of your assertions.
What that means is that your posts are a jumble of confused and meaningless blather.

Did you mean the actual Pope, Benedict XVI? Did you mean you actually invited him? Twice? Is there evidence? and... honestly... do you think that if you did invite the Pope, twice, and you received no response, that he is hiding from you? Try to be clear.
 
Craig4 said:
So, referencing only non-spiritual events, what happened right before the other person got the Zulu war-club?
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Unforgiveness.

But I have the feeling that you want the facts. I can not remember. But the greatest reason for her anger was that I didn't want to change my preaching. She feared I am going to loose my job. I was a preacher at that time in Stanford. And the congregation stood up against me for what I was preaching.

A huge fight with them erupted.

It is to be understood. I was her security. Well actually she should have had God as her security. I married her for that reason. God being a reality to her.
 
TofuFighter said:
Your claims of forgiving people ring hollow. You don't want to forgive them, you just want to make a huge display to all and sundry of how forgiving you are. Your friend calls you a bad name, you walk around confronting strangers in the street relaying the nasty name you he called you and asking whether what your friend did was a bad thing or not.
One of the reverends is rude to you in a store... you walk around with him confronting random strangers relaying the story of how rude he was to you and asking for their judgment. What you're really doing is exacting revenge, and then when they get upset with you for your badgering, or throw you out of the store, or ban you from their church, or get an interdict against you for your badgering, you magnanimously claim that you forgive them. How holy of you.

It's all a show, but you'll never recognise your own failings in any of this because you think you're always right.

Sooooo many people with court orders against you (which is not to say i believe your exaggerations), so many who think you have lost your senses. They're all wrong, of course. You're the one who is right. :rolleyes: You're great at judging others.
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Good. You got some facts.

So it is true that I did not hide the wrong that Christians did. For that I was "punished". Yep that is now what they need to learn.

Remember they were in another sort of system. Punishing children by causing bodily pain and spiritual pain by using sticks, belts etc and abusive words.

Now I had to teach them God's way.

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-fear-of-god.8023951/

That is just the way God works. He reveal the sin in the presence of others.

Not behind their backs. You speak to them in their face about what they did wrong.

And then you have to turn the other cheek. Exactly correct. That is what nobody wants. Their wrongs to be spoken about in the open.

But remember. I started with myself first. I proclaimed my wrong in the streets of Robertson to everyone. And after that I got the power from God to take on my wife, and then Die Herberg and then the churches and now the Internet.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=425.8

And now you too.

I forgive you for saying it is just a show. You are welcome. And I am doing it in front of the eyes of the whole world. So now. Follow them. Beat me!
And I will just turn the other cheek. But you have made your case worse.
And I am still alive to talk about it.

No problem to me. You have it. They have the pain and fear.

1Ti 5:20* Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.*

And they run for the "holes"

Isa 2:19* And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.*

And God said they are not what they say they are.

1Co 6:1* Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?*
1Co 6:2* Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?*
1Co 6:3* Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?*
1Co 6:4* If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.*
1Co 6:5* I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?*

Where a Christian is concerned. It is a "shame" to go to the "law". They should have had the wisdom to solve the situation. But they are revealed as liars. They have no wisdom to rule.

But you knew that all along didn't you?

But they managed to turn you around. Suddenly you believe in the Christians.

So tell me. When did you get converted?
 
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Chanakya said:
Johan, I think I owe you an apology for that post of mine. I absolutely wouldn't have spoken in those terms to you (or in your presence) IRL, and therefore it was inappropriate here as well.
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I do not need to accept it for you to feel good at your own honesty. Honesty has its benefit in itself. Owning up to a mistake is going against your own pride. You will also feel good about that. Now go on and do right and good things and you will grow in "goodness"

I have however not keep it against you and forgave even as you were speaking. And you might grasp the reason. Grace in action.


Chanakya said:
Very sporting of you to take it in that spirit. Irrespective of the rest of what you say, that stands out.
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That is not "sporting" but Grace. Much more powerful.

Chanakya said:
But to say what I'd said earlier in less offensive language (and without any offensive intent at all), why don't you try seeking professional medical help? I think it would do you good.
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l already have Grace, Joy, Peace, Glory, Righteousness, Holiness, Patience, Long suffering.

Gal 5:22* But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,*
Gal 5:23* Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.*


What else would they be able to give me?

But ok. Others asked me to go there too. And just to please them I went. One guy (the best they could find) my organisation sent me too approximately 30 years ago while I was still acting a rev. in the Church booked me off for 3 months. That he did on the word of the congregation.

When I visited him on my first scheduled meeting I ended up helping him. He never schedule another meeting. But I got 3 months of vacation. Then 10 years ago I was forced to go again to a doctor and a psychologist. The town tried to get me certified. But the outside Psychologist that they had to get for this certification didn't want to play along. So I am still here ready to face anyone. And my smiling face is just the problem.

As I said many times. Why do you people "dim" when I "bright" you? That Glory I spoke about. Light vs darkness. One pastor commented that I look like a toothpaste advertisement just before he asked me to please leave his church.

Notice the please before the wrong action. Covering up. Hiding away. Christians are very good with that. That is why Jesus called them the snakes.

Mat 23:29* Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,*
Mat 23:30* And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.*
Mat 23:31* Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.*
Mat 23:32* Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.*
Mat 23:33* Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?*
Mat 23:34* Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:*

Chanakya said:
No offense meant. I'm out of here now, but perhaps you could consider doing that?
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I heard. But you "could consider coming back soon"
 
Craig4 said:
Yeah, you've totally forgiven them. That really comes across.
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Good. That is what you do when somebody do wrong against you. And you say it in his presence in front of others. That will bring into the situation God's fear.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/general-discussion-forum/the-fear-of-god-97764/

Craig4 said:
There's so much forgiveness there, it oozes like a greenish pus from an infected wound. Funny how forgiveness and vitriol can look so much alike.
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That is because there is war there.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/205343-the-donkey-and-the-horse

And there is a new King in the process of being established.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/205522-the-kingdom-of-david/

Craig4 said:
Oh and *********** seriously, you're a god damned god and you're grousing about being banned from an Internet forum?
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Many forums. And same goes for them.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=425.8

Craig4 said:
There's no lightening bolt you can call down on them? No plague of locusts. Perhaps a community wide outbreak of jock itch?
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Nope. Father does not want that.

Luk 9:53* And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.*
Luk 9:54* And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?*
Luk 9:55* But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.*
Luk 9:56* For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.*

God did nothing then. It was not the time for taking over ruling. Now He brings His Fear down.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/general-discussion-forum/the-fear-of-god-97764/

They should know why they fear and turn back to God. That is their warning.

If they do not want to because their pride is in the way they need to hate that.

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/the-hatred-of-god.70499

And if they do not they were liars to start with.

Mat 18:15* Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.*
Mat 18:16* But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.*
Mat 18:17* And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.*

Somebody that does not listen to the Spirit is a "heathen and a publican"


Craig4 said:
You just get on the internet and talk about your grace, and you're our mother or some such nonsense? Pathetic.
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Not really. You are of that spirit. You know this now. Yet you fear to tell those in Robertson. They are Christians. Here behind their back you have a lot to say about them. But when you speak to them your knees got weak.

But I am going to give you another Spirit. The Spirit of war. Then you can face them.

Isa 41:13* For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.*
Isa 41:14* Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.*
Isa 41:15* Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth: thou shalt thresh the mountains, and beat them small, and shalt make the hills as chaff.*
Isa 41:16* Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away, and the whirlwind shall scatter them: and thou shalt rejoice in the LORD, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel.*

Or you can stay a "worm"
 
Porpoise of Life said:
Your forgiveness doesn't mean anything. You're just propping up your enormously inflated ego.
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So how do you see that?

Give us the facts.

If not then:

It is just your judgment. Having "an enormously inflated ego". Because you see yourself as being able to judge while you are not.
 
abaddon said:
Funny that.

What is your position on slavery? Is the bible morally correct? Or morally wrong?
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We are past that one now. God takes on every evil in the right time. He doesn't fix everything at once.

That one He fixed in His own time and by the people He anointed to do that.

Now we need to fix another one.

Slavery under your nose.

So let us take on the present day one. "Bosses" giving the "slaves" jobs.
 
ferd burfle said:
You missed or perhaps ignored my point and instead linked to more of your spamming.
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Yep. You do not know.


ferd burfle said:
Your self-righteousness blinds you to or serves to deflect criticism.
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And now you are judging without knowing.

So rather know.

I didn't answer what you wanted to answer. So let us get deeper. Tell me more so that I can clearly see what you actually asked or said.

And also tell us how you see my answer as "spamming"

Jas 1:19* Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:*
 
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Johanabrahams said:
Good. That is what you do when somebody do wrong against you. And you say it in his presence in front of others. That will bring into the situation God's fear.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/general-discussion-forum/the-fear-of-god-97764/



That is because there is war there.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/205343-the-donkey-and-the-horse

And there is a new King in the process of being established.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/205522-the-kingdom-of-david/



Many forums. And same goes for them.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=425.8



Nope. Father does not want that.

Luk 9:53* And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.*
Luk 9:54* And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?*
Luk 9:55* But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.*
Luk 9:56* For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.*

God did nothing then. It was not the time for taking over ruling. Now He brings His Fear down.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/general-discussion-forum/the-fear-of-god-97764/

They should know why they fear and turn back to God. That is their warning.

If they do not want to because their pride is in the way they need to hate that.

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/the-hatred-of-god.70499

And if they do not they were liars to start with.

Mat 18:15* Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.*
Mat 18:16* But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.*
Mat 18:17* And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.*

Somebody that does not listen to the Spirit is a "heathen and a publican"




Not really. You are of that spirit. You know this now. Yet you fear to tell those in Robertson. They are Christians. Here behind their back you have a lot to say about them. But when you speak to them your knees got weak.

But I am going to give you another Spirit. The Spirit of war. Then you can face them.

Isa 41:13* For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.*
Isa 41:14* Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.*
Isa 41:15* Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth: thou shalt thresh the mountains, and beat them small, and shalt make the hills as chaff.*
Isa 41:16* Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away, and the whirlwind shall scatter them: and thou shalt rejoice in the LORD, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel.*

Or you can stay a "worm"
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And our next class will be on recognizing sarcasm.
 
Johanabrahams said:
So how do you see that?

Give us the facts.

If not then:

It is just your judgment. Having "an enormously inflated ego". Because you see yourself as being able to judge while you are not.
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Claiming you are our God, God's chosen one, and our divine Mother simultaneously surely isn't a sign of an inflated ego.
And neither is foaming at the mouth about how everyone mistreated you, naming them and their actions, and in the same breath praising yourself for being so forgiving...

Nothing to see there...
 
Johanabrahams said:
But remember. I started with myself first. I proclaimed my wrong in the streets of Robertson to everyone.
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Did you? Proclaim them here then.

Johanabrahams said:
And after that I got the power from God to take on my wife, and then Die Herberg and then the churches and now the Internet. And now you too.
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good luck with that. I suspect you'll mostly be talking to yourself until you start making an effort to make sense.

I forgive you for saying it is just a show. You are welcome. And I am doing it in front of the eyes of the whole world. So now. Follow them. Beat me!
And I will just turn the other cheek. But you have made your case worse.
And I am still alive to talk about it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, you're a saint.

Johanabrahams said:
No problem to me. You have it. They have the pain and fear. And they run for the "holes"

Where a Christian is concerned. It is a "shame" to go to the "law". They should have had the wisdom to solve the situation. But they are revealed as liars. They have no wisdom to rule. But you knew that all along didn't you?
But they managed to turn you around. Suddenly you believe in the Christians. So tell me. When did you get converted?
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At some stage you're going to have to start questioning how accurate your judgment is. When others make judgment "it's just their opinion", but when you make judgment, it's divine. If you really believe that your judgments are really just a channeling of god's judgment, then ignore what I just said. There's nothing more to be said in that case.
 
TofuFighter said:
You're not making any points.

All of your arguments, such as they are, are completely disjointed and your conclusions do not follow from your premises. The links don't support any of your assertions.
What that means is that your posts are a jumble of confused and meaningless blather.
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Ok just stay with me. You will see soon enough. In the meantime you learn about patience. A very good virtue that few possess.

TofuFighter said:
Did you mean the actual Pope, Benedict XVI? Did you mean you actually invited him? Twice? Is there evidence? and... honestly... do you think that if you did invite the Pope, twice, and you received no response, that he is hiding from you? Try to be clear.
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Not that one. The one on Delphi.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=424.23

Here one of his followers went to take a look why he is hiding.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=415.49

And here one of his used to be followers saw him hiding and decided he is going to break with him and stay with me.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=415.51
 
Dueling prophets. Bickering like children, and creating sockpuppet accounts so they can continue their god given mission of spamming each other's forums.
It's sad, but funny.
 
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