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Tony said:
We've seen this before. Although it is usually the SJWs making the "don't say mean things" case. It usually goes like this:
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Got your dig in at the SJW's in a thread about Nazis killing someone on a US street. Good for you. Feel better?
 
caveman1917 said:
The internet had died already.
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That's not the same. These are cops enforcing actual laws, not service providers on system level being pressured into regulating content. There's an internal email that leaked where the author of the statement, the cloudflare CEO, tells his company that he was "just in a bad mood" and kicked them, and that nobody including himself should have that power. I don't buy that, or better I think there were "compelling reasons" for that bad mood.
 
Tony said:
The left in general? No. I'm a proud left winger and I'm not hateful. But the nutters on the left and right? Yeah, they're hateful.
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The hard left hates the Nazis. The Nazis hate everyone who's not white/right-wing.

But yeah, they're probably equally bad, don't you think?
 
johnny karate said:
TBD claimed that if the Nazis did X, he would respond with Y.

Well, the Nazis did way worse than X, and not only did he not respond with Y, he didn't respond at all. As a matter of fact, I've yet to see a post in this thread in which he's been critical of the Nazis at all. He saves all his criticism for the people opposing the Nazis.

Therefore, his claim that he would be equally critical of both sides is proven false.

Now I understand how sensitive modern conservatives are about having certain labels applied to them (say what you will about the conservatives of the last century, but at least they had the balls to own their racism and bigotry), and the last thing I want to do is offend someone's delicate sensibilities, but you have to understand that when someone goes out of their way to attack people who oppose Nazis, it makes it pretty difficut for the rest of us to not connect those dots.
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Oh well, as we already knew, when the ACLU stood up for free speech in Skokie they were bitterly criticized too.

As such, what is the point of posts like this, where it does not in the slightest bit contradict anything I have said and is just a blatant attempt to smear me and personalize the argument?
 
Tony said:
Reality is problematic.
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Reality? Reality is Nazis killed people on a US street, and the US president basically supported them.

But you wanna talk about SJWs, because someone once called you a misogynist, right?
 
uke2se said:
The hard left hates the Nazis. The Nazis hate everyone who's not white/right-wing.

But yeah, they're probably equally bad, don't you think?
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The hard left doesn't hate Nazis. It's hates anyone that disagrees with them (who is therefor a nazi). And yes, they are equally bad.
 
Tony said:
The hard left doesn't hate Nazis. It's hates anyone that disagrees with them (who is therefor a nazi). And yes, they are equally bad.
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You know many hard leftists, mr leftist? Because I do.
 
uke2se said:
Yeah, we're the hateful ones. It's not like Nazis killed people in US streets last weekend. It's actually the left that's bad, right?
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I have never called any member of this Forum a Nazi. There are a few members who appear to be publicly proud to be white supremacists, but I haven't even placed this label on them in any of my posts. But I will state that there are certainly Forum members whose views of Nazis and white supremacists appear to be surprisingly mild, or secondary to their more intense hatred of Anti-Fa and other anti-Nazi demonstrators.

I can only state that one should carefully check the function of one's moral compass when one starts to feel that Nazis aren't that bad, or when one invoke Tu quoque to counter someone who criticizes Nazis. It is not that hard to check out one's moral compass- you can just compare it to what virtually everyone else (minus Trump) in the world is saying about the Nazi rally in Charlottesville. If your compass doesn't point in the same direction perhaps it has become demagnetized over the years and you need to buy a new one...
 
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uke2se said:
Reality? Reality is Nazis killed people on a US street, and the US president basically supported them.
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And muslims have been killing far more people in streets around the world for longer. Your lack of hysteria on that is telling.

I don't care what the president says. He is a lost cause and a clown.

But you wanna talk about SJWs, because someone once called you a misogynist, right?
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It sure is easy to trigger you people. I've been called all kinds of things by all kinds of people on all sides of the political spectrum. I consider it a badge of pride when unhinged wackos call me names. SJWs are a good subject because their hypocrisy in this case is hilariously rank.
 
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uke2se said:
If the Nazis disappeared, the anti-fascists would too. If the anti-fascists disappeared, nobody would stand up to the Nazis.
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I don't think either of those statements are true, if by "anti-fascists", you mean antifa.
 
mgidm86 said:
Sick. Straight out of 1984. Unabashed finger-pointing, Nazi Nazi!!!

You people sound so gawdamn silly it's disturbing. Calling names and filthy accusations to posters who have been here debating with you for years. Nazi Nazi! What is this fifth grade?

You want to know what the problem is with the left's message, Travis (referring to his thread)? Here ya go. Hateful, emotionally driven name calling. This is some scary stuff people. You're acting like children.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/nazis-racism-charlottesville/536928/

It's perfectly reasonable to call people Nazis if they perform Nazi salutes, fly Nazi flags, try to intimidate a local synagogue, and shout Nazi slogans

And use typical brownshirt tactics
 
Tony said:
And muslims have been killing far more people in streets around the world for longer. Your lack of hysteria on that is telling.
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Ah, so now you're not satisfied with bringing in SJW's, but are going to have a go at Muslims as well. It's almost as if Nazis killing people doesn't really bother you, mr leftist.

Tony said:
It sure is easy to trigger you people. I've been called all kinds of things by all kinds of people on all sides of the political spectrum. I consider it pride when unhinged wackos call me names. SJWs are a good subject because their hypocrisy in this case is hilariously rank.
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Yeah, it's the SJW's who are hypocrites.
 
Tony said:
Not anymore, Ive learned stay away from conformist wackos.
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Then you know ****-all about who they hate.

Go on pretending to be a leftist though. It's really progressive to spew **** about SJWs and Muslims in a thread about actual Nazis killing someone on a US street.
 
Meadmaker said:
I don't think either of those statements are true, if by "anti-fascists", you mean antifa.
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What do you imagine antifa stands for? What do you think their political agenda is? What do you pretend to know about them and what they would do if the Nazis disappeared?
 
Tony said:
The hard left doesn't hate Nazis. It's hates anyone that disagrees with them (who is therefor a nazi). And yes, they are equally bad.
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Certainly, if you first define "hard left" as those who hate everyone who disagrees with them. Just as if I were to define "right wing conservatives" as chid molesters who love Nazis- and then construct an argument based on all right wing conservatives being Nazi-loving child molesters.

And it is easy to demonize an entire group for the sake of a political argument. Or to simplify one's one thinking. "The other side is all evil." Especially if one doesn't really know many of the other side as people.

As with the right, the left represents a wide range of people and ideas. And that includes people with fairly extreme ideas in terms of certain topics and issues (the "hard left" if you will). But many don't hate anyone. Indeed most are anti-Nazi but they are not anti-demoncratic (with a small "d").
 
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