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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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Saggy said:
I googled to find: "all Jews where cruely killed by the Lithuanian population at the marketplace and buried in Naryshkin Park". Nobody told them about the excavation.

Perhaps Muelenkamp should let them know :).
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Saggy, that's from a memorial page and also used by Wikipedia. Not acceptable sources. Are you unable to answer the simple, direct questions I put to you? Your continued resort to ad hominem attacks is noted. Roberto Muehlenkamp has nothing to do with this discussion, your bringing him into it shows your obsession and desperation. Please reply to what I asked you and stop clowning around. Thanks, LC
 
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LemmyCaution said:
Explain to us what you think is wrong with these reports - other than that they have evidence you don't like - and tell us too about your own investigative work into events in Žagare and "Ilokiai."
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Investigative work? Saggy? Bwhahahaha!!! Saggy's "investigative work" consists entirely of typing a few key words into Google (because everyone knows that "There is no sense trying to refute something that cannot even be googled"). Then he selectively cherry picks only that which can be twisted or manipulated to support his case. If there are no usable results then, in typial denier style, he just makes stuff up and posts it as an unsupported assertion, without a link, a source or any supporting evidence.

There is an increasing number of new age conspiracy theorists and deniers who have no idea that researching a subject can often mean getting their arse out of their computer chair, getting out of Mummy and Daddy's corner basement, going to a library, finding the reference book they need, pulling it off the shelf actually reading it. They might even find that the book they want isn't in the library, and they have to have it ordered in from another library, and shock-horror, they will actually have to wait for it!!!



There is no sense trying to refute something that cannot even be googled.
 
Let me get this straight. So . . . what you're saying . . . I can hardly believe this . . . is that Saggy hasn't researched Žagare and Ilokiai at all? But that he popped off about them anyway? Wow, I did not see that coming . . .
 
LemmyCaution said:
Let me get this straight. So . . . what you're saying . . . I can hardly believe this . . . is that Saggy hasn't researched Žagare and Ilokiai at all? But that he popped off about them anyway? Wow, I did not see that coming . . .
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Yes, I cannot believe it either, a person denying the holocaust but not knowing anything about the subject. I"VE never heard of that before:eye-poppi
 
Saggy, again, googling "Zagare" and posting material I'm familiar with is not a reply to what I asked you. To remind you, you weighed in on the reports on mass graves in Žagare. So I asked you, to begin discussion:

- what's wrong with the reports on Žagare
- what your own investigation into events in Žagare says, because surely no one would dismiss these war-time reports without having investigated Žagare, right?
- (especially) how you explain EMs and other German reports which mention "the wholesale execution of the Zagare Jews," as one report put it, as well as the "mutiny [of Jews which] took place" there, according to a different German report
- (if you insist that the documents are not legitimate) how and when the reports I summarized on Žagare were created

Please, don't derail the discussion with further random googling or ad hominem attacks on individuals - but answer what you've been asked. (Hint: "I don't have a clue" is an acceptable, and almost certainly a fitting, reply.)
 
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Hans said:
Yes, I cannot believe it either, a person denying the holocaust but not knowing anything about the subject. I"VE never heard of that before:eye-poppi
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You don't need to know a thing. For example, on page 6 of the most widely read holohoax testimony, that of Elie Wiesel, Nobel Prize winner, first director of the USHMM, we read ....

"Babies were thrown in the air and the machine gunners used them as targets. "

It's prima facie absurd and degenerate propaganda. And, it carries the full authority of the USHMM, Yad Vashem, ever hoax academic, etc. And, that's just page 6, anyone who reads the book critically will know that the holocaust is a hoax.

Or, better yet, watch this vid to see what an absurd pack of lies the holohoax is ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acPfPG457cw&t=197s

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LemmyCaution said:
You're all set, then.
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All I had to do was read the book and watch the vid.

Or, check out the urban dictionary definition of holohoax ...

"Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax, hence holohoax."
 
Saggy said:
All I had to do was read the book and watch the vid.

Or, check out the urban dictionary definition of holohoax ...

"Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax, hence holohoax."
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But you still don't know a thing. "You don't need to know a thing."

I asked you some questions about Zagare and you apparently didn't find answers because you're now trying to change the subject. It's the best someone who doesn't know anything can do.
 
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Saggy said:
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Sorry Saggy but until you answer my question about the button I will not respond to any of your poor quality propaganda.

You gonna push or not push the button Saggy?

Or are you going for a default - no tpushing which means all your ranting about 'evil Jews' going to destroy the world is just your own personal paranoia and you don't even really believe it......is that your choice?
 
Saggy said:
All I had to do was read the book and watch the vid.

Or, check out the urban dictionary definition of holohoax ...

"Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax, hence holohoax."
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But that hoax means millions lived, so starting with the c34,000 Jews sent to Sobibor from Westerbork, prove their survival.
 
abaddon said:
Nice cherry picking, cherry picker.

Read the other four definitions. (NSFW)
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No 4 is funny:

Holohoax

Word used by white supremacists to explain their belief that the Holocaust never happened, that Hitler and the Nazis "weren't that bad," and was all a ploy by the West to give Jews their own land or money, or something...I'm honestly not sure, their reasoning is just too stupid.
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And this:

White supremacist reasoning: "So the Holocaust was really messed up and there's no logical way to justify it, so what we'll do is pretend it never happened. That way we can appeal to the gullible and the stupid among us, God knows there's lots of them. And we can even have a clever name for it: Holohoax! We're so smart..."
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Elagabalus said:
No 4 is funny:
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In my limited experience deniers vehemently deny that the Nazis and Hitler would ever do such a thing to the Jews or any of the people they decimated. However they were so evil and while they was no genocide there should have been...and we look forward to one in the future.
 
Saggy said:
You don't need to know a thing.
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:jaw-dropp

So, you don't feel the need to actually know a subject you are trying to debunk?

I just laughed so hard I thought for a moment I had stroke.

See, I miss out on things when I don't check in regularly.
 
Jeffk 1970 said:
:jaw-dropp

So, you don't feel the need to actually know a subject you are trying to debunk?

I just laughed so hard I thought for a moment I had stroke.

See, I miss out on things when I don't check in regularly.
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Jeffk 1970 don't move the It's the Donnydämmerung! Thread!! Please, leave it where it is ....
 
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