Ed Dueling protests spark state of emergency in Virginia.

sir drinks-a-lot said:
Why should he?




It's a question of degrees, but I don't see much of a difference in degree between Trump and the past couple of administrations. Would you really claim that Obama didn't often use divisive rhetoric while Commander in Chief?




This guy's guy to be the biggest imaginary racist of all time. His name is always trotted out as a "zinger" to show how racist everyone/everything is these days, but when you start to look into it, everything evaporates. I've issued this challenge before, but can you provide any racist quotes from Mr. Bannon?
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"Bill Kristol - Renegade Jew" came from his website.
 
CapelDodger said:
Trump made a big thing of Obama not saying "Radical Islamiic Terrorism" (Obama referred to Islamist terrorism) so Trump's refusal to say "White Supremacist Terrorism" is going to attract comment.
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Oh yeah, I was going to mention that earlier, too.

"...Please proceed, Governor."

Today is Political Quote Jeopardy day here on ISF.
 
CapelDodger said:
Trump made a big thing of Obama not saying "Radical Islamiic Terrorism" (Obama referred to Islamist terrorism) so Trump's refusal to say "White Supremacist Terrorism" is going to attract comment.
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And over the past two days it has attracted a lot of comments.....
 
dudalb said:
Although whether Trump is a racist or is cynically using racism for this political advantage remains an open debate.
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I beg to differ. It may not be conscious, but references to "their" (meaning black) communities and the infamous "Miss Housekeeping" slur reveal it quite clearly. He's not anti-semitic, there's too much New York in him for that, but he still unthinkingly assigns them a social role (natural accountants and lawyers) and membership of the deserving rich. Blacks, Hispanics and Muslims he assigns to inferior social roles.
 
dudalb said:
The fun is just starting, folks......

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article167142732.html
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"In February, the center reported that hate groups in the U.S. were at “near-historic levels,” jumping from 892 in 2015 to 917 last year."
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Splitters!

There were, I gather, 500-1000 neo-Nazis at Charlottesville, which is about one per hate group. About a dozen seem to have been actually present, and who knows how much bickering has broken out within them on the way home.

"White supremacists picked up the pace in 2008, after the election of the first African American president, and again this year as white-power groups saw Donald Trump’s win as an opportunity to move from the fringes toward the near mainstream of political discourse."
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Exposure is not their friend.
 
Interesting, his choice of words. White supremacists, the KKK, and neo-nazis (geez, why do there have to be three groups?) are "repugnant criminals and thugs". Yet as of just this afternoon, he called a reporter and his organization CNN "truly bad people".

Guess which time he showed more anger.
 
dudalb said:
The fun is just starting, folks......

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article167142732.html
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Yep: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/texas-white-nationalist-protest-trnd/index.html

White nationalists, neo-Nazis and other extremist groups plan to hold a "white lives matter" rally at Texas A&M on September 11. Richard Spencer, the white supremacist who helped found the so-called alt-right movement, will speak at the event, according to the Battalion, Texas A&M's student newspaper.
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Bold and Underlining is mine, because the date seem vaguely important...(/sardonic humor)

Texas...why is it always Texas?
 
I would love it soooooo much if the long rumored audio of Trump using the "N word" on the set of "The Apprentice" surfaced right about now.
 
dudalb said:
Dammit, I am torn by this; I Don't like illegal destruction of public property, but am glad another monument to Treason and Racism is gone...althout I would much rather have seen it done by legal means.
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I think it is very important that the government, the system, be the one that takes them down.
 
Some analysis of pulls from the book about Bannon recently published, spewing false stereotypes and lying to create the supposed experiences of witnessing them firsthand:

Steve Bannon Said He Learned to Fear Muslims When He Visited Pakistan. Except He Was Probably in Hong Kong.

We’d pull into a place like Karachi, Pakistan – this is 1979, and I’ll never forget it – the British guys came on board, because they still ran the port. The city had 10 million people at the time. We’d get out there, and 8 million of them had to be below the age of fifteen. It was an eye-opener. We’d been other places like the Philippines where there was mass poverty. But it was nothing like the Middle East. It was just a complete eye-opener. It was the other end of the earth.
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That’s Bannon’s version. There are a few problems with it, however.

The port of Karachi was not run by the British in 1979. Karachi, which is the commercial hub of Pakistan, had a population that was well short of 10 million (it was about half that) and is not usually considered part of the Middle East. But the biggest problem is that the destroyer Bannon served on, the USS Paul F. Foster, never visited Karachi while Bannon was aboard.
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dudalb said:
Dammit, I am torn by this; I Don't like illegal destruction of public property, but am glad another monument to Treason and Racism is gone...althout I would much rather have seen it done by legal means.
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Agreed. When it's taken down legally and retired to a museum of Civil War related artifacts, it's "the will of the people to put this shameful memory behind us, but not forget the lessons." When a mob topples it over, it's just fueling resentment and a feeling of increasing retributive violence.

That's an issue I have with the brewing emotional toxicity I see. We're not going to lead a just resistance, we're going to have a showdown.

Nobody wins.

dudalb said:
But that protestor in the photo was doing it right...not interfering with Spencer's right to speak and spew his nonsense, but ridiculing him. Humor and ridicule is a very effective weapon.
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Spot on. I tried to motivate some comedians in my area to do street performances and public ridicule a-la saturday night live skits in flash-mob style. They didn't want to do "political humor."
 
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