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As a man, the risk of my being raped is so vanishingly small that never in all my life have I ever worried about it.

Yeah; I read a book by Gavin de Becker, and was rather astonished when he said that men are rarely afraid of being victimized. But I promptly asked a few men, and they concurred: they don't spend much time feeling vulnerable or scared.
 
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I'm always answering your questions.

How 'bout you answer some of mine for a while?

Do you believe men treat other men differently than they treat women?
Do you believe women treat other women differently than they treat men?

Do you believe men and women think differently?

Do you believe transgender persons think more like their preferred gender than they do like their physical gender?

I don't know what the psychological community says about any of these things, but I can Google that. I'm curious what you think.

Some do.

Some do.

No. I believe individuals think differently and that lumping people together by sex, gender, race, religion, nation, etc is just someting people do to make the world seem neat and ordered in their minds. Our brains seem to do it automatically and it probably served a purpose once, when we were more primitive. But it is counterproductive now and entirely irrational.

I believe a transgender woman is a woman and a transgender man is a man. I don't believe men and women think differently outside of cultural conditioning. For example, how can you think of a tomato in a male or female way?

When it comes to gender I'll admit that I don't quite grasp the concept. How can anyone feel female or male? I'm me and my friends are my friends. Gender is there but on the periphery like what colour our eyes are or our hair.

But some people in this world seem so determined that a born male is a drastically different creature than a born female despite only really having genital and slight hormone differences so there must be more than just the physical. I think.

I mean, how does having a penis or a vagina really affect who you are?

So I'll let each individual figure out who they are. Telling them they are wrong is too much like telling a gay person that they are just confused.

I really do hope this helps. It got a bit long and rambly :)
 
Some do.

Some do.

No. I believe individuals think differently and that lumping people together by sex, gender, race, religion, nation, etc is just someting people do to make the world seem neat and ordered in their minds. Our brains seem to do it automatically and it probably served a purpose once, when we were more primitive. But it is counterproductive now and entirely irrational.

I believe a transgender woman is a woman and a transgender man is a man. I don't believe men and women think differently outside of cultural conditioning. For example, how can you think of a tomato in a male or female way?

When it comes to gender I'll admit that I don't quite grasp the concept. How can anyone feel female or male? I'm me and my friends are my friends. Gender is there but on the periphery like what colour our eyes are or our hair.

But some people in this world seem so determined that a born male is a drastically different creature than a born female despite only really having genital and slight hormone differences so there must be more than just the physical. I think.

I mean, how does having a penis or a vagina really affect who you are?

So I'll let each individual figure out who they are. Telling them they are wrong is too much like telling a gay person that they are just confused.

I really do hope this helps. It got a bit long and rambly :)

Okay; thank-you. Yes; it gives me a bit of insight, I think.... I'll take some time to think all of that over before I say any more.
 
I mean, how does having a penis or a vagina really affect who you are?

Ovaries and testes, on the other hand, have quite an influence.

And having a penis or vagina might not affect who you are, but they affect what you can do, and how people interact with you.
 
Ovaries and testes, on the other hand, have quite an influence.

And having a penis or vagina might not affect who you are, but they affect what you can do, and how people interact with you.

That would be the hormone difference I mentioned. AFAIK there are only really 3 that differ in significant amounts.

I don't treat people differently because of what they might do or might be capable of. Lots of things affect what we can do or can be capable of. Being tall or a blackbelt for example. And how people treat me is out of my control. I can only feel sorry for them if they choose my genitals as a factor.

Society makes out that genitals are a much bigger deal than they are.
 
I mean, how does having a penis or a vagina really affect who you are?

It has a profound effect on whether you can bear a child or impregnate a ciswoman, obviously. Does that affect "who you are"? I would have said so.
 
It would be easier if you just said your point rather than asking pointless irrelevant leading questions
The question requires the respondent to grapple with a major flaw in the argument.

You've chosen the most popular response I've observed. You object to being asked.

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The question requires the respondent to grapple with a major flaw in the argument.

You've chosen the most popular response I've observed. You object to being asked.

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OK

Do you mind translating their question into something resembling sense for me?

As I have no idea what context they are talking in
 
OK

Do you mind translating their question into something resembling sense for me?

As I have no idea what context they are talking in
At the end of the day, it's an emblem on a door that is apparently expected to stop a bathroom sexual assault.

So if the big fear is men running around disguised as women to prey upon them either a) there's nothing stopping that from happening now, or b) it is already happening.

In either case, what's that got to do with transgender folks?

The vast bulk of them, being typical humans and not so fond of awkward, confrontational, or humiliating social exchanges, tend to use the bathroom of their apparent sex. I doubt they really enjoy constant looks of shock, rude lectures, and hostile outbusts.

Plus what happens to a post-op in a jurisdiction where they take the "what your birth certificate says" stance? Now you've got a dude in the women's room...because the law says so. Wait the law supposedly is to stop men from...uh.

Point being, the entire white-knighting excuse of sexual assaults is a red herring. It has not even been show to correlate, let alone prove causal link to, the transgender question.

Also, they've been peeing in the same restrooms as everyone else for a long time, we just never cared.

It was nice.

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OK

Do you mind translating their question into something resembling sense for me?

As I have no idea what context they are talking in


You said there were "many incidents of pervs sneaking into other genders facilities and filming, posting footage etc."

When asked about stats you asked us to look up Pervs secretly filming children.

When asked how many were trasitioning you said that you never said they were and :"If someone is sick enough to do sick stuff like that, it is hardly a massive leap to put on a skirt and do this".

I was wondering why they would suddenly start wearing skirts. No law has changed to allow them in if they wear skirts. So I took it to mean that if the law didn't change the pervs would start committing their crimes they already commit but wearing skirts. Like they all had a meeting or something.

TBH I had no idea where you were going with this or what it had to do with transgender people so I asked.

P.S. I can't figure out how to use multiple quotes. I think this started at Post #984
 
At the end of the day, it's an emblem on a door that is apparently expected to stop a bathroom sexual assault.

So if the big fear is men running around disguised as women to prey upon them either a) there's nothing stopping that from happening now, or b) it is already happening.

Yes there is. A dude wearing a skirt isn't allowed in there and will be asked to leave

In either case, what's that got to do with transgender folks?

It doesn't. It has to do with the law. Under the new law they can't be asked to leave.

Plus what happens to a post-op in a jurisdiction where they take the "what your birth certificate says" stance? Now you've got a dude in the women's room...because the law says so. Wait the law supposedly is to stop men from...uh.

Not quite sure how this would even come up. Who walks around with their birth certificate? Sorry, but just sounds like just trying to muddy the waters.
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Point being, the entire white-knighting excuse of sexual assaults is a red herring. It has not even been show to correlate, let alone prove causal link to, the transgender question.

And this idea that there are hoards of violent thugs waiting patiently to beat the crap out of TGs en-masse for going to a certain bog isn't?

Because I have yet to see proof other than a couple of anecdotes
 
I was wondering why they would suddenly start wearing skirts. No law has changed to allow them in if they wear skirts.

Currently if a dude walks into a female changing facility wearing a skirt, he gets thrown out

You seem to be wanting it to be, if a dude walks into a female changing facility wearing a skirt and just says "Hi! I'm TG", he sits down. Gets his jollies and does his pervy camera stuff

Sorry mate

Didn't think it was that difficult
 
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Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but is there currently (or in the past) a law that says you can be charged/fined with something for using the wrong restroom? It's not something I've ever heard of. I've seen men accidentally walk into the ladies room. I accidentally walked into a men's room at least once. I've also been at events where the women's room line was so long or there were operational problems in the ladies room and the women commandeered the men's room. Apparently no one thought they could be charged with something.

If a man were to walk into the women's locker room, it would likely be by accident and he would quickly realize and leave.
 
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but is there currently (or in the past) a law that says you can be charged/fined with something for using the wrong restroom? It's not something I've ever heard of. I've seen men accidentally walk into the ladies room. I accidentally walked into a men's room at least once. I've also been at events where the women's room line was so long or there were operational problems in the ladies room and the women commandeered the men's room. Apparently no one thought they could be charged with something.

If a man were to walk into the women's locker room, it would likely be by accident and he would quickly realize and leave.
Well, according to some people they would automatically switch into predator mode and rape everyone, or something.
 
That's actually incorrect in a sense

Cis- is often only used in this discussion because the context requires it. The difference between cis and trans is whether or not their gender matches their sex.


As for violence against transgender people: http://faculty.mu.edu.sa/public/uploads/1425310920.5389violence transgender.pdf
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-violence-transgender-uk-police-a7159026.html

As for bathroom assualts:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/health/transgender-bathroom-law-facts-myths/index.html
https://mic.com/articles/114066/sta...ple-have-attacked-you-in-bathrooms#.xSabtgwPg

In essence, the concerns are over hypothetical things that generally don't happen.
 

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