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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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LemmyCaution said:
As to the student organization, sure, they could do better choosing speakers ...
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Nonsense, Zisblatt is a perfect representative of the holohoax. Spielberg chose her as one of best to represent the 50,000 survivors whose testimonies he has collected, and he featured her in an Academy Award winning film, "The Last Days". The film was vetted by rabbis and holohoax scholars who were credited at the end of the film.

Who are you to second guess Spielberg and his array of rabbis and scholars, and Yad Vashem?

The film is supported by Yad Vashem, ...

Review of 'The Last Days'

For the skeptical, the complete prima facie idiocy of Zisblatt and the entire film is revealed in this movie by Eric Hunt ...

The Last Days of the Big Lie

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Saggy said:
It proves that the entire holohoax establishment, including Yad Vashem, the USHMM, every academic at Cornell, every academic in the US, every journalist, et. al., that actively supports Zisblatt by sponsoring her talks, or that passively supports her by not denouncing her degenerate lies, is complicit in the greatest and most depraved and destructive hoax in history
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How does it prove that? Your post doesn't show this to be correct.
 
She fabricated her life story; some credulous people fell for her story - and a few crank anti-Semites eat it up. I am nearly 100% sure that her name doesn't appear once in the list of books Nick Terry compiled, out of 450,000 citations, 0she's that important a witness. And; no, I don't get my history from Hollywood.

Babi Yar? Warsaw? The Netherlands? Or we could talk about witnesses that matter - like Abraham Krzepicki or Jacob Rabinowitz? Don't be so afraid. We will help you.
 
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LemmyCaution said:
She fabricated her life story; some credulous people fell for her story -
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No one 'fell for her story'. Spielberg, the rabbis and hoax scholars who vetted the movie, the Academy Award committee, Cornell Hillel, all know she is lying every time she opens her mouth, just as Elie Weisel, Filip Meuller, Primo Levi, Abraham Bomba, and every other hoax eyewitness lies with every word.

The point is, they do not care. It is all lies. There is not one credible Jewish witness to the hoax.

Yehuda Bauer has this to say about Filip Meuller, 'the only man who saw the Jewish people die and lived to tell about it'. You only have to read the title of Meuller's book to know what a complete idiot he is, 'Three Years in A Gas Chamber'.

Holohoax 101 has more on Meuller's book ....

Holohoax 101 - Fundamentals of the Holocaust Hoax
 
Saggy said:
No one 'fell for her story'.
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Sure, they did. One problem is that they don't get enough, good education about the war period and the Holocaust.

Saggy said:
every other hoax eyewitness lies with every word. . . . It is all lies. . . . There is not one credible Jewish witness to the hoax.
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Ok, big mouth, inform us about the lies told by Krzepicki and Rabinowicz, as I proposed.
 
LemmyCaution said:
Sure, they did. One problem is that they don't get enough, good education about the war period and the Holocaust.


Ok, big mouth, inform us about the lies told by Krzepicki and Rabinowicz, as I proposed.
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Think of it this way .... once 3 or 4 people who have reported seeing UFOs, or little green men, or spaceships from Mars, have been debunked, mainly for lack of a shred of physical evidence, there is no need to proceed to numbers 5 thru 50000.

If you want to summarize Krz... 's testimony, and the physical evidence that supports it, please do, and I'll consider it. Otherwise, don't bother me with idiotic nonsense.
 
Saggy said:
Think of it this way .... once 3 or 4 people who have reported seeing UFOs, or little green men, or spaceships from Mars, have been debunked, mainly for lack of a shred of physical evidence, there is no need to proceed to numbers 5 thru 50000.

If you want to summarize Krz... 's testimony, and the physical evidence that supports it, please do, and I'll consider it. Otherwise, don't bother me with idiotic nonsense.
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No, think of it this way: you said that every eyewitness to Nazi mass murder of Jews is a liar. I named two of them. I don't want an analogy, I want what I asked for: inform us about the lies told by Krzepicki and Rabinowicz.

There's no need for me to summarize Krzepicki's or Rabinowicz's testimony - these are two of the most important testimonies about Treblinka, you condemned both witnesses as liars when you said all witnesses are liars, so tell us why - specifically, what did they lie about? Or haven't you read their testimonies?
 
Saggy said:
Nonsense, Zisblatt is a perfect representative of the holohoax. Spielberg chose her as one of best to represent the 50,000 survivors whose testimonies he has collected, and he featured her in an Academy Award winning film, "The Last Days". The film was vetted by rabbis and holohoax scholars who were credited at the end of the film.

Who are you to second guess Spielberg and his array of rabbis and scholars, and Yad Vashem?

The film is supported by Yad Vashem, ...

Review of 'The Last Days'

For the skeptical, the complete prima facie idiocy of Zisblatt and the entire film is revealed in this movie by Eric Hunt ...

The Last Days of the Big Lie

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You do know that Hunt is no longer a denier, right?
 
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/toronto/ernst-zundel-dead-1.4237598

A notorious Holocaust denier who lived in Canada for decades before being deported to Germany to face prosecution has died, according to a statement from his wife Ingrid Zundel.

Ernst Zundel died Sunday at home in Germany after he was found unconscious by his sister Sigrid, the statement says.

Zundel was born in Germany, but later moved to Canada, where he operated a business and published Nazi propaganda before being convicted of "spreading false news" in 1985.
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Saggy said:
Think of it this way .... once 3 or 4 people who have reported seeing UFOs, or little green men, or spaceships from Mars, have been debunked, mainly for lack of a shred of physical evidence, there is no need to proceed to numbers 5 thru 50000.
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LOL
I just, I can't....LOL

Ah, Saggy. Seriously, that just made my day.
 
Saggy said:
If you want to summarize Krz... 's testimony, and the physical evidence that supports it, please do, and I'll consider it. Otherwise, don't bother me with idiotic nonsense.
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Sorry, I don't want to distract you, Saggy.

Look, if you are going to say "everyone lies" then you need to tell us how it is a lie. So, why don't you summarize his testimony for us and tell us how he lied?
 
Saggy said:
Nonsense, Zisblatt is a perfect representative of the holohoax. Spielberg chose her as one of best to represent the 50,000 survivors whose testimonies he has collected, and he featured her in an Academy Award winning film, "The Last Days". The film was vetted by rabbis and holohoax scholars who were credited at the end of the film.
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I have no idea why this evades you, but movies are not real.

Saggy said:
Who are you to second guess Spielberg and his array of rabbis and scholars, and Yad Vashem?
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Well, see, actual evidence comes into play. Does spielberg have an agenda presenting whatever on the silver screen? Sure. He is a film-maker. But so was Goebbels. So that is hardly any criticism.

Saggy said:
The film is supported by Yad Vashem, ...
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Heaven forfend that people accept reality. I am sure you are unable to figure out why your fantasy actually is a fantasy. You simply are unable to do history, and are willing to abdicate your thinking to support nazism. That is the modus operandi of Nazism.

Saggy said:
Review of 'The Last Days'Any this is relevant how?

Saggy said:
For the skeptical, the complete prima facie idiocy of Zisblatt and the entire film is revealed in this movie by Eric Hunt ...
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Sorry. At this point, you are simply a chew toy. Now, this has been going on for some time, albeit I do not indulge. Much.

Nevertheless, Saggy, you have chosen to cast yourself in a very strange frame. I have no idea why you are surprised why that exposes you to outright mockery and IMHO you have no grounds for complaint.



Saggy said:
The Last Days of the Big Lie

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And?

You continue to post that 20th C fox baloney. You think that has any real vector? Are you afraid of Darth vader? Something else? Pixies? Angels? Demons? What a load.
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Jeffk 1970 said:
Here you go, I helped you:

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogs...evisionist-fabrication-of-myth-of_26.html?m=1

Why don't you read those links? It even summarizes the denier positions on these two gentlemen.

Then, come back and let us know what are lies.
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Gee, I thought this was pretty clear ...

Think of it this way .... once 3 or 4 people who have reported seeing UFOs, or little green men, or spaceships from Mars, have been debunked, mainly for lack of a shred of physical evidence, there is no need to proceed to numbers 5 thru 50000.
 
Saggy said:
Gee, I thought this was pretty clear ...

Think of it this way .... once 3 or 4 people who have reported seeing UFOs, or little green men, or spaceships from Mars, have been debunked, mainly for lack of a shred of physical evidence, there is no need to proceed to numbers 5 thru 50000.
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Well, let's switch gears, then. You obviously don't feel comfortable discussing this. I think it has to do with your ignorance of the subject matter.

What about German statements and documents regarding the subject?
 
Saggy said:
Gee, I thought this was pretty clear ...

Think of it this way .... once 3 or 4 people who have reported seeing UFOs, or little green men, or spaceships from Mars, have been debunked, mainly for lack of a shred of physical evidence, there is no need to proceed to numbers 5 thru 50000.
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You've been asked to show in what way they were lying. Stop dodging the question.
 
Saggy said:
Gee, I thought this was pretty clear ...

Think of it this way .... once 3 or 4 people who have reported seeing UFOs, or little green men, or spaceships from Mars, have been debunked, mainly for lack of a shred of physical evidence, there is no need to proceed to numbers 5 thru 50000.
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Scholars and researchers of the Holocaust do not credit Zisblatt's testimony; they do credit the testimonies of Krzepicki and Rabinowicz. It doesn't do to say Zisblatt's an imposter, therefore so too are Krzepicki and Rabinowicz. You have to show how they lied - or are mistaken - or are frauds - if your want to make a case against them. You're clearly chicken, so you hide behind your stable of favorites.
 
Saggy said:
Gee, I thought this was pretty clear ...

Think of it this way .... once 3 or 4 people who have reported seeing UFOs, or little green men, or spaceships from Mars, have been debunked, mainly for lack of a shred of physical evidence, there is no need to proceed to numbers 5 thru 50000.
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This statistical principle - the law of small numbers - is why in research, it is always good to stop after sampling 3-4 data points out of 50,000: whatever you get from the first few is sure to hold up over the next 45,000 or so.
 
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