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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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I do have one thing to add to the Babi Yar 'discussion', this if from

Holohoax101 - The Fundamentals of the Holocaust Hoax

Irony of ironies, while the Jewish fantasy of Blobel uncovering the mass graves at Babi Yar and making them disappear by pouring on some gasoline and burning them to ashes and smoke, the Nazis had discovered a real mass grave a mere 100km from Kiev .....

This is what a real excavated mass grave looks like ....
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From the site .. Mass Graves at Vinnitsa / Poems at Babi Yar

"Wild grasses rustle over Babi Yar,
The trees look sternly, as if passing judgement.
Here, silently, all screams, and, hat in hand,
I feel my hair changing shade to gray.

And I myself, like one long soundless scream
Above the thousands of thousands interred,
I'm every old man executed here,
As I am every child murdered here."


Yevtusheko's famous poem refers to 'the thousands of thousands interred', but in fact there are no bodies interred at Babi Yar. The mass grave shown in the photo is in Vinnitsa, Ukraine. There are no poems about Vinnitsa.

In the midst of WW II, the Nazis discovered mass graves in Vinnitsa, Ukraine. In the summer of 1943 they invited an international team of forensic experts, including pathologists from Belgium, France, Netherlands, and Sweden, to examine the bodies and to conduct autopsies. They exhumed 9000+ bodies. Over 600 were identified. For a full account see https://web.archive.org/web/2011010...n-history-the-genocide-at-vinnitsa_14911.html

Babi Yar is a ravine just outside of Kiev, Ukraine, where the Nazis are alleged to have massacred and buried, according to the source, from 30,000 to 100,000 Jews. There are no mass graves at Babi Yar. There have been no excavations. There is not a shred of physical evidence of a massacre at Babi Yar. According to the holohoax, in the summer of 1943, concurrent with the international delegations at Vinnitsa not 100 miles away, the Nazis used Jewish prisoners to dig up the bodies at Babi Yar, cremate them on grates made from headstones from a nearby Jewish cemetary, and scatter the ashes in nearby farmland. Not a trace of the bodies, no bullets, no artifacts of any type, remain as evidence of the bodies, graves, or cremation. Since there are no graves there have been no excavations. Compare the evidence of the real massacre at Vinnitsa, perpetrated by the Soviet NVKD and investigated by the Germans and an international team of experts, with the non-existent evidence of the hoax massacre at Babi Yar, investigated by no one.
 
From you link, Saggy:
Perhaps in 1937 and 1938 the bosses in the Kremlin simply thought that it was time to apply the lash to the Ukrainians again. In any event, the NKVD was given the task this time. The NKVD was even more Jewish than the rest of the Soviet communist apparatus.

LOL
So, do you and David Duke need a lesson in history, Saggy?

Saggy, do you know what was going on in the USSR in 1937-1938 (actually 1936-1938)?
 
I wanted to see what USHMM had to say about Vinnitsa ... not much but I did turn up this German poster published after the graves were discovered ..

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I do have one thing to add to the Babi Yar 'discussion', this if from

Holohoax101 - The Fundamentals of the Holocaust Hoax. . . . Not a trace of the bodies, no bullets, no artifacts of any type, remain as evidence of the bodies, graves, or cremation. Since there are no graves there have been no excavations. . . .
Which has been shown to be pure invention in post after post above. Of all the Babi Yar links you posted, this one was so pathetically ignorant and obtuse, I didn't bother commenting on it. Of course, it's the one thing you want to make sure to highlight. LOL.
 
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Ah, you do know, it's a very famous quotation from Saggy's hero. It's all he's got on this, bitterness and frustration that his mistakes and dishonesty are being exposed time and again. He needs some reassuring words - and he turns to his Führer. Quelle surprise!
 
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Well, it appears that my demonstration that Blobel's confession is absurd was missed altogether. And along with it the entire idiocy of the six million killed but no bodies. I could say a few words about that myself .... but ... I do have a quote that is to the point ....


"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

Dont be shy, Saggy, tell us you're quoting Adolf Hitler himself...
 
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