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Why are all your cases so old? Why nothing since the advent of high quality photography in everyone's hand? Why hasn't any government broke the veil of conspiracy silence? Why no great photos from amateur astronomy, plan spotters?


I like the older cases because the government was more open in those days. After the Robertson Report and the Brookings Institute warning to NASA, the government's UFO doors were closed. However, the US government has now begun to release its declassified UFO files from the National Archives and there are hundreds of government and military folks who want disclosure now.

UFO reports are still flowing in on a regular basis, but those reports are classified, but eventually, they will be released as well, but not anytime soon unless they are leaked as was the case in 1984 when a UFO maneuvered around one of our DSP satellites.
 
Why are all your cases so old? Why nothing since the advent of high quality photography in everyone's hand? Why hasn't any government broke the veil of conspiracy silence? Why no great photos from amateur astronomy, plan spotters?

You've almost answered your own question.

- It was easier to fake reports in those days. Everything was recorded on paper, eye witness accounts (and we know how unreliable eye-witnesses can be) would recount their experiences through third parties (Chinese whispers) with little fact checking.

- We didn't have the near instant communications and information exchange afforded to us by satellites, cellphones and the internet.

- we didn't have a high definition film camera in just about every purse, bumbag, handbag and pocket. Today, everyone has a camera on their phone, businesses have security cameras, cars have dash-cameras and Police have cameras. There are surveillance and traffic cams on poles, on street lights and on traffic lights. On top of that, there are satellites that constantly watch and take pictures of the earth. Where are all the videos and photos of Alien saucers with Grey Aliens inside?

A few years ago, a meteor exploded in an airburst over Chelabinsk, and it was caught on literally many hundreds of cameras throughout the region.

If there was anything to this UFO lark, then the number of videos of sightings should have climbed in proportion with the proliferation of mobile phone cameras out there among the public; there ought to be hundreds of thousands of Alien Spacecraft videos with multiple people shooting the same objects from different angles at the same time. The fact that there are not is telling... these alien spacecraft simply do not exist.

Of course, the likes of Mr Matthews and his ilk will simply dismiss this glaring absence with a wave of the hand.
 
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Where are all the videos and photos of Alien saucers with Grey Aliens inside?


CLASSIFIED!! That was evident when Senator Barry Goldwater requested a look in a special room at Wright-Patterson AFB, but was denied.


A few years ago, a meteor exploded in an airburst over Chelabinsk, and it was caught on literally many hundreds of cameras throughout the region.


So were these objects over Texas.


UFOs over Texas


http://www.ufocasebook.com/lubbocklights3.jpg
 
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Of course, the likes of Mr Matthews and his ilk will simply dismiss this glaring absence with a wave of the hand.


Let's just say that I have the knowledge and experience to know when to hold 'em, and when to throw 'em.

They're out there — and the government knows

That's according to a group of about 20 former government workers, many of them military and security officials, who stepped forward on Wednesday to say they had witnessed evidence of aliens and unidentified flying objects and called for congressional hearings about such sightings.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=98572
 
As a pilot of 48 years, I find it peculiar that skeptics think that pilots were chasing stars and planets and dismissing the fact the UFOs the pilots encountered were tracked on airborne and ground-based radars, which common sense would rule out celestial bodies as responsible for those UFOs.

The US government didn't think the Iranian pilots were chasing stars or planets. Check out US government documents on the 1976 Iranian UFO encounter, which I might add, was tracked overhead by a U.S. DSP satellite and that the White House was notified of this incident.


Document 1

http://www.nicap.org/reports/iran22.htm

Document 2

http://www.nicap.org/reports/iran23.htm

Document 3

http://www.nicap.org/reports/iran24.htm

We have a thread about the reliability of pilot testimony. Pilots are just as susceptible to error as anyone else, especially when it comes to the misidentification of celestial objects, which appears to be the cause of a great number of supposed UFO sightings.

The documents you linked to show the US government had heard of the supposed sighting. They add nothing to the evidence for the supposed existence of alien craft in our skies.
I would like to see a link for the UFOs being picked up by satellites.
 
Why are all your cases so old? Why nothing since the advent of high quality photography in everyone's hand? Why hasn't any government broke the veil of conspiracy silence? Why no great photos from amateur astronomy, plan spotters?

Why nothing since the ISS was launched into orbit? You'd think they see loads, if the greys are zipping in and out of the atmosphere as frequently as we are being led to believe.
 
Let's just say that I have the knowledge and experience to know when to hold 'em, and when to throw 'em.

Translation: Ya got nothin'

Sounds to me like you're invoking Giorgio's Law... "Anything you can't explain must mean aliens did it"


Where are all the videos and photos of Alien saucers with Grey Aliens inside?

CLASSIFIED!! That was evident when Senator Barry Goldwater requested a look in a special room at Wright-Patterson AFB, but was denied.

Classified? Really? You honestly believe the claptrap you post.

How would the gubmint suppress/classify hundreds of thousands of cellphone videos posted on YouTube, Facebook, Daily Motion and other social media sharing sites?

And FFS, Barry Goldwater? His term in the Senate ended in 1987.... cellphones with cameras hadn't been invented yet!!!

We all know why you keep posting old, repeatedly debunked stuff... because you've got nothing mew, because there isn't anything new that isn't an obvious fake.

I still see UFO nuts trotting out the fantasies of that certifiable nutcase, George Adamski and purporting them to be truth. IIRC, Adamski's stocks fell rather sharply when NASA showed that Venus, far from being a tropical paradise he claimed, was in fact a burning slice of hell.
 
Translation: Ya got nothin'

Sounds to me like you're invoking Giorgio's Law... "Anything you can't explain must mean aliens did it"

Classified means classified. However, you can review photos from this declassified report either online and under the FOIA.

HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES AIR FORCE

DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE

WASHINGTON, D.C.

TOP SECRET AF cy 102

CONTROL

No 6637



Classified? Really? You honestly believe the claptrap you post.


Having been involved in classified projects to understand what I am talking about, why not?!


And FFS, Barry Goldwater? His term in the Senate ended in 1987....


And yet, he was made aware of a particular room at Wright-Patterson AFB.


We all know why you keep posting old, repeatedly debunked stuff...


I love challenges, and my challenge to you is to prove me wrong with undeniable evidence.

Failing to meet my challenge, it will be evident that you cannot backup what you say and I will make the most of it. The ball is now on your side of the court and I am waiting for your evidence that proves I am incorrect.
 
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We have a thread about the reliability of pilot testimony. Pilots are just as susceptible to error as anyone else, especially when it comes to the misidentification of celestial objects, which appears to be the cause of a great number of supposed UFO sightings.

Not in this case. The Iranian UFO incident was a radar/visual case that was also tracked by a DSP satellite, so that excludes stars, meteors, planets, etc as responsible for those UFOs. If you read the report, the pilot had to take evasive maneuvers in order to avoid the UFO that headed straight for him, whereas, the object returned to the larger object. It's all there in the report and I am a bit surprised that despite what is depicted in that report, you think that the pilots mistaken celestial objects for those UFOs.

Let's review what was in that report that somehow made it to the White House.

Iranian UFO Report

C. The size of the radar return was comparable to that of a 707 tanker. The visual size of the object was difficult to discern because of its intense brilliance. The light that it gave off was that of flashing strobe lights arranged in a rectangular pattern and alternating blue, green, red, and orange in color.

It is clear that the lighting arrangements and radar return had nothing to do with celestial bodies or even aircraft.

Iranian UFO Report

This second object headed straight toward the F-4 at a very fast rate of speed. The pilot attempted to fire an AIM-9 missile at the object but at that
instant his weapons control panel went off and he lost all communications (UHF and interphone).

At this point the pilot initiated a turn and negative G dive to get away. As he turned the object fell in trail at what appeared to be about 3-4 NM. As he continued in his turn away from the primary object the second object went to the inside of his turn then returned to the primary object for a perfect rejoin.

That definitely doesn't sound like a celestial body of any kind much less another aircraft.

Iranian UFO Report

When the F-4 turned away from the object and apparently was no longer a threat to it, the aircraft regained all instrumentation and communications. At 0140 hrs a second F-4 was launched. The backseater acquired a radar lock on at 27 NM 12 o'clock high position with the VC (rate of closure) at 150 NMPH. As the range decreased to 25 NM the object moved away at a speed that was visible on the radar scope and stayed at 25 NM.


Definitely doesn't sound like a star, meteor, planet or even a comet the pilots encountered and the White House, the Department of Defense, or even our intelligence agencies wouldn't have been interested in pilots misidentifying Venus, Mars or a meteor as a UFO.
 
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Why nothing since the ISS was launched into orbit? You'd think they see loads, if the greys are zipping in and out of the atmosphere as frequently as we are being led to believe.


Even the International Space Station has had encounters as well.
 
Investigators were looking at all things internally to explain the shutdowns and none were found. It was eventually determined that EMP was responsible for the shutdowns and system evaluations ruled out anything to do with the missiles or the system. The only source of that EMP disruption came from an external source.

* What was reported overhead during the missile shutdowns? A UFO

* What are UFOs known to generate? EMP


Can you provide anything to support this that doesn't involve begging the question?
 
Can you provide anything to support this that doesn't involve begging the question?

I was going to ask, but didn't fancy the inevitable wall of text that didn't actually explain anything...
 
Not in this case. The Iranian UFO incident was a radar/visual case that was also tracked by a DSP satellite, so that excludes stars, meteors, planets, etc as responsible for those UFOs. If you read the report....

And if you had read my link, you would have seen that the plane's radar was known to be faulty.
Any luck with a link to that satellite tracking yet?
 
I like the older cases because the government was more open in those days. After the Robertson Report and the Brookings Institute warning to NASA, the government's UFO doors were closed. However, the US government has now begun to release its declassified UFO files from the National Archives and there are hundreds of government and military folks who want disclosure now.

UFO reports are still flowing in on a regular basis, but those reports are classified, but eventually, they will be released as well, but not anytime soon unless they are leaked as was the case in 1984 when a UFO maneuvered around one of our DSP satellites.
You have avoided actually answering my questions. Where are all the modern say less than 10 year old photos and videos?
 
Von Däniken's law: Everything you don't understand is evidence of UFOs. If you understand almost nothing, you see evidence of UFOs everywhere.
 

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