CNN Doxxes a gif maker

[d4m10n]

Agree. If he was anyone with powerful influence in politics, his name would have been published. That IS a newsworthy story!

At least one of us has faith in CNN.

 

[Belz...]

CNN gets to be the smug self righteous PC cop of the internet.

You know how "that's racist" has lost its power because of over-use in trivial and irrelevant contexts? Your hyperbole has the same effect.

 

[The Big Dog]

You know how "that's racist" has lost its power because of over-use in trivial and irrelevant contexts? Your hyperbole has the same effect.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

http://www.slate.com/articles/techn...lackmail_it_was_petty_self_righteousness.html

 

[Mumbles]

Peoples lives have been shattered because of a single tweet or facebook post that went viral.

Many of these people brought it on themselves, either because of the despicable nature of the acts which led to their lives being shattered, or because of the obvious conflict between things lime their jobs and their recorded behaviors. "Memes" and "lulz" isn't really an excuse that'll fly with anyone who has a lick of sense.

Or, to put it another way, don't post pictures of yourself in blackface for Halloween on your Facebook page.

 

[d4m10n]

Peoples lives have been shattered because of a single tweet or facebook post that went viral.

Many of these people brought it on themselves, either because of the despicable nature of the acts which led to their lives being shattered, or because of the obvious conflict between things lime their jobs and their recorded behaviors. "Memes" and "lulz" isn't really an excuse that'll fly with anyone who has a lick of sense.

Social media mob shaming is a real problem, as amply detailed in Jon Ronson's enjoyable tome on point. That said, the answer isn't for journalists to stop reporting on people who make news.

 

[johnny karate]

It is the sheer SCALE of it that is entirely unethical.

I'm not aware of an agreement that any of us has with the rest of the world that dictates reactions to our willfully offensive behavior must be proportional, so I'm not sure what code of ethics you feel were violated.

It's a straight line between behavior and consequence.

If this guy's life is ruined, he ruined it himself.

 

[Sherkeu]

Social media mob shaming is a real problem, as amply detailed in Jon Ronson's enjoyable tome on point. That said, the answer isn't for journalists to stop reporting on people who make news.

In this case I view this guys GIF as him saying "CNN sucks!" and then Trump tweeting it out.
It isn't an unusual GIF or something rare and interesting or classified that we would need to know who did it. Anyone can do it. Kids can do it. I do not see it as news any more than finding out the true identity of someone who posts "CNN sucks!" with a poop emoji. Who cares?

Trump's reckless tweeting is the story, not this particular guy.

 

[d4m10n]

In this case I view this guys GIF as him saying "CNN sucks!" and then Trump tweeting it out.

I view the gif as saying Trump has defeated the media in the course of a highly staged contest.

Not sure which of us (if any) has the correct interpretation, though, and we don't know whom to ask, because CNN has supplemented traditional journalistic ethics with a bizarre internet norm promoting consequence-free anonymous hate speech.

 

[snoop_doxie]

In this case I view this guys GIF as him saying "CNN sucks!" and then Trump tweeting it out.
It isn't an unusual GIF or something rare and interesting or classified that we would need to know who did it. Anyone can do it. Kids can do it. I do not see it as news any more than finding out the true identity of someone who posts "CNN sucks!" with a poop emoji. Who cares?

Trump's reckless tweeting is the story, not this particular guy.

When the story first came out, it turned out this particular meme maker
had/has some hateful ideas and he then wrote an apology letter about them.

It was news because Trump used another meme from those who are
comfortable expressing their hate for women, or jews, or blacks, or
anyone not of their group.

 

[The Big Dog]

When the story first came out, it turned out this particular meme maker
had/has some hateful ideas and he then wrote an apology letter about them.

It was news because Trump used another meme from those who are
comfortable expressing their hate for women, or jews, or blacks, or
anyone not of their group.

No it wasn't, because CNN utterly failed to show a connection between the doxxee's tweets and the completely innocuous video that trump tweeted

Fake news

 

[d4m10n]

No it wasn't, because CNN utterly failed to show a connection between the doxxee's tweets and the completely innocuous video that trump tweeted

What was his name on Twitter?

 

[CapelDodger]

Agree. If he was anyone with powerful influence in politics, his name would have been published. That IS a newsworthy story!

Or a Kardashian.

 

[Mumbles]

Social media mob shaming is a real problem, as amply detailed in Jon Ronson's enjoyable tome on point. That said, the answer isn't for journalists to stop reporting on people who make news.

Well yes, and at the same time, there's a difference between mob shaming on one hand, and organized harassment on the latter. This guy, with his racial slurs and "jews control the media" pictures, was a contributor to the latter - albeit an insignificant one. As much as some here wish to bring up Justine Sacco, the truth is that the great majority of what happened to her was a disorganized group of people on the #hasjustinelandedyet hashtag making up jokes and mocking her. That's not really the same as having your kids photoshopped into thousands of Holocaust-themed pictures, gifs, and cartoons.

I view the gif as saying Trump has defeated the media in the course of a highly staged contest.

Not sure which of us (if any) has the correct interpretation, though, and we don't know whom to ask, because CNN has supplemented traditional journalistic ethics with a bizarre internet norm promoting consequence-free anonymous hate speech.

I doubt Toupee Fiasco thought much beyond "Me Trump smash CNN!" And yes, I am making him speak like Grimlock from the Transformers.

 

[CapelDodger]

Or, to put it another way, don't post pictures of yourself in blackface for Halloween on your Facebook page.

Unless you're prepared to own it. Because you do. You may not feel the effect often, if ever, but as this case shows one day you might.

 

[CapelDodger]

No it wasn't, because CNN utterly failed to show a connection between the doxxee's tweets and the completely innocuous video that trump tweeted

Fake news

The real story, of course, is that Trump clearly doesn't care what sort of dirtbag he associates himself with. If he likes their product he buys into it.

Of course, as far as Trump's tweet is concerned it's monkey see, monkey do. Somebody fed it to him : one wonders who that was.

 

[BobTheCoward]

No it wasn't, because CNN utterly failed to show a connection between the doxxee's tweets and the completely innocuous video that trump tweeted

Fake news

The connection seems to be that he is the earliest source of art depicting a trump wrestling image with CNN over a wrestling figures head. That would be circumstantial evidence that he was the original source of the idea. Second, the changes made were a tehnology modification and not something that altered the original meaning.

How is that not a connection?

 

[CapelDodger]

In this case I view this guys GIF as him saying "CNN sucks!" and then Trump tweeting it out.

Actually, this is a guy saying "Look at me!" on reddit. It' wasn't his first gif, after all.

It isn't an unusual GIF or something rare and interesting or classified that we would need to know who did it. Anyone can do it. Kids can do it. I do not see it as news any more than finding out the true identity of someone who posts "CNN sucks!" with a poop emoji. Who cares?

The reddit identity of the "Look at me!" guy is (get this) Hans AssHoleSolo. A "Look at me!" handle.

Trump's reckless tweeting is the story, not this particular guy.

Indeed. What's not the story, of course, is CNN and all the rest looking at the "LookAtMe!" guy in order to stifle free speech.

 

[Sherkeu]

No doubt this guy is a despicable character. Posting hateful things is not a good idea. But I still come back to the principle of his actual name being published. (though they didnt in this case)

If the name is newsworthy, is it newsworthy no matter if he is racist or not?

If CNN found the meme-maker to be a woman who, under an anonymous name, also shared personal details about her marital issues, past drug use, and her rape story, would her real name be 'newsworthy'? Can CNN ethically dig up and publish her name if Trump tweets a crass video she makes? And then she can own up publicly to ALL her posts?
Would that be journalistic integrity?

This is where I have issue with it.
CNN has immense power and with it comes immense responsibility to balance what is in the public concern as news and what is unnecessarily exploitative.

Is it because we hate what he says that we want him to be known? Would he just be getting what he deserves?

Or is the story that Trump tweets crap from racists and doesnt realize it and we need to show him who he is retweeting? Public lesson and all that.

 

[CapelDodger]

No doubt this guy is a despicable character.

There's plenty of doubt. He denies it himself. He posted in the role of a racist with "*******" in his handle : plausibly with ironic intent.

Posting hateful things is not a good idea. But I still come back to the principle of his actual name being published. (though they didnt in this case)

No, it wasn't, was it? Not a Kardashian or Kushner, clearly. Just this guy.

Not published by CNN, that is : it's hardly a big secret out there, and not just to Russians.

If the name is newsworthy, is it newsworthy no matter if he is racist or not?

Paris Hilton has a newsworthy name but Paris Hilton had breakfast today isn't newsworthy. Paris Hilton uses N-word on reddit is newsworthy.

If CNN found the meme-maker to be a woman who, under an anonymous name, also shared personal details about her marital issues, past drug use, and her rape story, would her real name be 'newsworthy'?

This is abject diversion. We're dealing with a particular case here, where a guy self-publicises with a series of consciously offensive material.

Can CNN ethically dig up and publish her name if Trump tweets a crass video she makes?

In the case in hand, the actual case, CNN hasn't published a name. You've conceded that yourself. You appear to be thrashing around to no good purpose.

Take refuge on the hypothetical plane if you must, but I'm not following you there.

 

[Noztradamus]

The connection seems to be that he is the earliest source of art depicting a trump wrestling image with CNN over a wrestling figures head. That would be circumstantial evidence that he was the original source of the idea. Second, the changes made were a tehnology modification and not something that altered the original meaning.

How is that not a connection?

Meet Nancy K Stouffer. who created Larry Potter and the Muggles

How is that not a connection?, she asked when suing for JK Rowling's billions