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CNN Doxxes a gif maker

This has been an interesting discussion.

At this point many Trump supporters seem to be at war with CNN. Though I have often criticized the network's tone I believe it is a far more credible source than Trump. It's nice to have a forum where people can discuss CNN's failings in a fairly civil way. Accusing CNN of "bullying" vs. "doxxing" is a defensible position. Ultimately I am on CNN's side, but not to the point where I will defend all of its actions.

Earlier in the thread I cited an inaccurate timeline. CNN's break in Baghdad was 26 years ago.
 
Elagabalus said:
Pfffffftt. That's just because he was cowering in fear. And probably not just because of CNN but because his wife might find out.

Seriously, I think most here agree that last paragraph was silly to say. And how do we know that CNN wasn't going for a much broader story about people who like to be dicks on internet? I, for one, would like see less of that behavior on the intertubes so maybe facing a bit of consequences of one's actions might be in order?
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So would Melania Trump('s designated Secretary of Championing Social Issues)
 
I find the idea that CNN tracked down Han.A.Solo because they were upset about the meme to be absolutely ridiculous.

As mentioned by other users, there are thousands of anti-media memes (which is in no small part attributable to Trump's anti-media bombast) and if CNN were even slightly concerned about them, they would never report news and simply spend their time tracking down memers. It's a patently stupid notion.

He was tracked down because the President - or god Emporer (sic) - used his material.

The idea that CNN extorted or blackmailed him is equally dumb. There's nothing that he has that they want. There's zero benefit to them. The only person who benefits from CNN's position is Han.A.Solo.
 
TofuFighter said:
I find the idea that CNN tracked down Han.A.Solo because they were upset about the meme to be absolutely ridiculous.

As mentioned by other users, there are thousands of anti-media memes (which is in no small part attributable to Trump's anti-media bombast) and if CNN were even slightly concerned about them, they would never report news and simply spend their time tracking down memers. It's a patently stupid notion.

He was tracked down because the President - or god Emporer (sic) - used his material.

The idea that CNN extorted or blackmailed him is equally dumb. There's nothing that he has that they want. There's zero benefit to them. The only person who benefits from CNN's position is Han.A.Solo.
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CNN gets to be the smug self righteous PC cop of the internet.

"CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change." = Extortion.

That is some Dewy defeats Truman level incompetence.
 
You don't think CNN has that right, either ethcially or legally?

EDIT: Seems obvious (to me) that the media should be allowed to publish such details as the original author of a widely-viewed editorial cartoon or political film.
 
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d4m10n said:
You don't think CNN has that right, either ethcially or legally?

EDIT: Seems obvious (to me) that the media should be allowed to publish such details as the original author of a widely-viewed editorial cartoon or political film.
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Ethically? No. Absolutely not.

His personal details are irrelevant to a story of the president tweeting the GIF.

This guy had the misfortune to have a silly post plucked from a subreddit and put into the national spotlight. CNN tracks him and finds he is just an everyday troll with some racially offensive material. To even hint that his name is newsworthy to publish GLOBALLY is ludicrous.

It would instantly ruin his life. He would need to move and hide, he and his family would get a barrage of harassment and death threats, he would undoubtedly lose his job. He could be physically hurt. We know this is what happens. CNN knows this is what happens.

His name adds nothing to the story. It isn't news. It's putting a man in the stocks for public ridicule....forever. Evidently, some people think this is ok.
 
Sherkeu said:
This guy had the misfortune to have a silly post plucked from a subreddit and put into the national spotlight. CNN tracks him and finds he is just an everyday troll with some racially offensive material.
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Do you think it would have been okay to identify the source of the gif if he had been a normal everyday guy with no history of promoting racial animus?
 
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Sherkeu said:
His name adds nothing to the story. It isn't news. It's putting a man in the stocks for public ridicule....forever. Evidently, some people think this is ok.
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Why exactly should he be protected from public ridicule? He seemed more than happy to ridicule others based on their personal information, e.g. ethnic or religious affiliation.
 
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Sherkeu said:
Not unless he agreed. Still not news.
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Can you find any support for this position (creator of newsworthy political satire deserves to be kept anonymous) in the voluminous writings on the topic of journalistic ethics? Or are you attempting to get that field to adopt a new standard, based on your own goals and values?
 
d4m10n said:
Why exactly should he be protected from public ridicule? He seemed more than happy to ridicule others based on their personal information, e.g. ethnic or religious affiliation.
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Well, he is already getting public ridicule. The only thing missing is the ability to address him by his legal name and ruin every other part of his life.

It is the sheer SCALE of it that is entirely unethical.
There is no crime here.
 
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d4m10n said:
Can you find any support for this position (creator of newsworthy political satire deserves to be kept anonymous) in the voluminous writings on the topic of journalistic ethics? Or are you attempting to get that field to adopt a new standard, based on your own goals and values?
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I would hardly label this guy as a "creator of newsworthy political satire".
His GIF was newsworthy only by rare circumstance, his name is not.
 
How can you claim to know his name isn't newsworthy, though? Maybe he works in PR for the RNC. Maybe he's the diversity officer at a major beltway law firm. Maybe he quit the Clinton Global Initiative in a huff over payola. Who knows who this guy is or what he does? Not me.
 
d4m10n said:
Ruin every part of his life? Is there a such thing as argumentum ad hyperbole?
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Peoples lives have been shattered because of a single tweet or facebook post that went viral. And that is without the help of a global news organization.
The public can be brutal if given a target.
 
d4m10n said:
How can you claim to know his name isn't newsworthy, though? Maybe he works in PR for the RNC. Maybe he's the diversity officer at a major beltway law firm. Maybe he quit the Clinton Global Initiative in a huff over payola. Who knows who this guy is or what he does? Not me.
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Agree. If he was anyone with powerful influence in politics, his name would have been published. That IS a newsworthy story!
 
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