Merged All things Trump + Russia

[d4m10n]

Are any of those teams coordinating their strategy in order to maximize their effectiveness against the Pats?

(Side note: Is that even possible in the NFL?)

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[BobTheCoward]

Are any of those teams coordinating their strategy in order to maximize their effectiveness against the Pats?

(Side note: Is that even possible in the NFL?)

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As far as I know, there isn't evidence of it.

 

[skyeagle409]

But of course, working toward the same goal doesn't prove collusion. </BobTheCoward mode>

Trump asked for help from the Russians to meddle in the election.

Donald Trump Calls on Russia to Find Hillary Clinton’s Missing Emails

DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that he hoped Russian intelligence services had successfully hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, and encouraged them to publish whatever they may have stolen, essentially urging a foreign adversary to conduct cyberespionage against a former secretary of state.

www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11899886

Just imagine, Trump, a candidate for President of the United States, invites an adversary of the United States to interfere in our election process and that is totally unacceptable!

Trump is now President of the United States and has been since January and he has yet to confront Russia on its meddling in the US election.

Let's see what multiple investigations uncover in the coming months and years.

 

[d4m10n]

As far as I know, there isn't evidence of it.

Bit of an oddly loaded analogy, then.


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[skyeagle409]

The Patriots will play 13 teams. Those 13 teams are all working to defeat them. Some will make public some of their planning. That isn't evidence that they are colluding to defeat them.

In regard to Trump, I find it peculiar that he would ask an adversary of the United States to interfere in our election process, which they did.

 

[skyeagle409]

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More beatings to come because Trump continues to inject his horse with blood from the Phoenix.

 

[BobTheCoward]

In regard to Trump, I find it peculiar that he would ask an adversary of the United States to interfere in our election process, which they did.

I don't find that peculiar. Why do you find it peculiar?

Especially considering the interference he suggested was not the interference they performed.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

But of course, working toward the same goal doesn't prove collusion. </BobTheCoward mode>

Correct, and that is actually a core issue in this scandal. Trump and his minions may well have believed that what they doing was simply working towards the goal of cooperation for mutual advantage. They may think - like most republicans do - that profitable business relationships are a good thing, and why shouldn't we do business with Russia if it benefits us? After all, it's been a long time since they had a government which was hell-bent on crushing Capitalism.

Trump's problem is that in his ignorance he didn't consider the ramifications of being president. It is not like being the CEO of your own company where you can do whatever you want. You have a much greater responsibility to others and to the country as a whole, and not everything is justified by the profit motive.

 

[skyeagle409]

I don't find that peculiar. Why do you find it peculiar?

Simply, as a presidential candidate, you don't ask an adversary to interfere in the election process and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, just plain old fashion common sense.

Now, we have a Russian puppet in the White House who has provided the Russians with classified information, shocked our allies and NATO, and has supported the lifting of sanctions on Russia.

Former officials: Trump seemed prepared to lift Russia sanctions 'in exchange for absolutely nothing'

The Trump administration reportedly looked into lifting US sanctions on Russia just days after the president's inauguration, and one former official at the State Department said that if those efforts were successful, it would have given the Russians "exactly what they wanted in exchange for absolutely nothing."

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wanted-to-lift-russia-sanctions-days-after-taking-office-2017-6

In other words, Trump is a threat to the United States.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

But of course, working toward the same goal doesn't prove collusion. </BobTheCoward mode>

I thought you were going for Fox News mode. MSNBC put on a montage of Fox personalities from Hume to Hannity to Rivera telling the audience there would be no crime had the Trump camp colluded.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

The Patriots will play 13 teams. Those 13 teams are all working to defeat them. Some will make public some of their planning. That isn't evidence that they are colluding to defeat them.

Do you think receipt of stolen property applies to stolen emails?

 

[BobTheCoward]

Do you think receipt of stolen property applies to stolen emails?

Of course.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

In regard to Trump, I find it peculiar that he would ask an adversary of the United States to interfere in our election process, which they did.

You don't understand. Russia is not the enemy, liberals are.

The only reason Russia was the enemy is that they were anti-capitalist. The 'red scare' was actually the fear that Communism would take over and we would all lose our 'freedoms' (ie. wealth). Liberals want some of the same things that Socialism/Communism promised, which means they are communists - the true enemy.

When Trump 'asked' Russia to interfere in our elections he was just asking for help to beat the evil liberals. What could possibly be wrong with that? Trump must be shaking his head now trying to understand why everybody is turning on him.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Simply, as a presidential candidate, you don't ask an adversary to interfere in the election process and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, just plain old fashion common sense.

Now, we have a Russian puppet in the White House who has provided the Russians with classified information, shocked our allies and NATO, and has supported the lifting of sanctions on Russia.




In other words, Trump is a threat to the United States.

I wouldn't call that peculiar. I think I would use malicious. It doesn't strike me as strange or odd necessarily.

 

[NoahFence]

The Patriots will play 13 teams. Those 13 teams are all working to defeat them. Some will make public some of their planning. That isn't evidence that they are colluding to defeat them.

Close, but no cigar.
The NFL provides film to every team. They don't have to collude.

If no film was available, then Miami and The Jets shared each other's in secret you might have something.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Close, but no cigar.
The NFL provides film to every team. They don't have to collude.

If no film was available, then Miami and The Jets shared each other's in secret you might have something.

public pronouncements about games is not evidence that they are coordinating privately.

 

[NoahFence]

public pronouncements about games is not evidence that they are coordinating privately.

Dude...
What? Moar English

 

[BobTheCoward]

Dude...
What? Moar English

It is my analogy. The post I replied to implied that the public statement was evidence that they colluded on the hack. Public pronouncements is not evidence that collusion is going on in the background.

 

[d4m10n]

A far better analogy would be a game with three teams playing simultaneously: The Moscow Bears, New York Grifts, and the Little Rock Crooks.

 

[NoahFence]

Nvm