Even the Tories aren't stupid enough to launch a leadership challenge with everything else going on. Bojo is a very clever man, a middling politician and would be dreadful as party leader. Very similar to his potential Labour opposite number.
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How Long Will Theresa May Last as Prime Minister (UK)
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angrysoba
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I'll put this here, rather than in the Huge Fire in London thread as this clip of the British House of Cards has appeared on social media making parallels between Theresa May's response to the Grenfell Tower fire and Francis Urquart's response.
There are of course some notable similarities between both the number killed, the blame on underfunding, and the prime minister's failure to show adequate public sympathy with the victims, and May might have wished she had watched this episode recently. Although she comes across more hapless than calculating.
https://vimeo.com/222034879?outro=1
There are of course some notable similarities between both the number killed, the blame on underfunding, and the prime minister's failure to show adequate public sympathy with the victims, and May might have wished she had watched this episode recently. Although she comes across more hapless than calculating.
https://vimeo.com/222034879?outro=1
P.J. Denyer
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Oddly I'd commented in the run up to the election that she seemed to be basing her premiership on 'To Play the King'. Obviously, Urquhart actually got a majority in his election. That coincidence hadn't occurred to me.
Well the Panorama programme on the fire tonight is not going to help her. Turns out the government had been promising a review of fire safety standard after a previous fatal fire at a tower block 7 plus years ago and despite constant prodding from a parliamentary committee it never happened. The committee was still pressing the matter in April of this year.
dudalb
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I think if there was a obviously better alternative, May would have been out the morning after the election. Problem is the Tories have a definent lack of capable leaders with public appeal. Labor is not better off in that respect.
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Sounds like the deal to get the DUP on board is teetering. Given she's alienated everyone else she's fairly stuck now.
Vixen
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Why do these fallen leaders hang on like limpets? We had Ceaucescu (remember him?), Gaddaffi, Gordon Brown, Margaret Thatcher and now the impotent automaton Theresa May, programmed to come out with annoying robotic sound bites.
Why don't they leave with dignity, like David Cameron.
Why don't they leave with dignity, like David Cameron.
dudalb
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In the case of May, I think it is because anybody significantly better is nowhere in sight in Tory Leadership.
angrysoba
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Heavy is the head that wears the throne.
Cameron's speed leaving office, and even quitting parliament, effectively impaired his dignity. Dignified events tend to be more measured in their rhythm.
It's not very dignified to think, "Hell I lost. This is a real mess and I'm getting out of it right now. Where's the emergency exit?"
Vixen
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How long before we watch 'developing news' on tv showing a distraught Theresa May cowering in the garden of No.10, with helicopters whirring overhead, with Hammond and Osbourne with their long knives in the wings?
Tomorrow's broadsheets are saying the Conservative-DUP alliance is on the brink of falling through, with DUP making bullying noises.
Guybrush Threepwood
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I think it was more a case of, 'You want Brexit? Then you take responsibility for negotiating it.' Why should he have stayed on to be the whipping boy for a policy he didn't believe in?
angrysoba
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Because he said he would?
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Frankie Boyle was absolutely lacerating with some of his comments on May in his latest show. Hes fast becoming the closest thing we have to an actual political commentator in this country. Odd that he gets away with it on the BBC.
In dealing with the parliamentary wing of the Orange Order, May seems completely out of her depth, as if she had no idea who these people are, and what they stand for. It will be to her credit (for we must give it where it's due) if she puts an end to her attempts to recruit the DUP to her cause. So maybe Her Majesty won't have to rave about poofs and Fenians after all, in her Gracious Speech.
Vixen
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May is facing a legal challenge over the DUP support as it is claimed it breaches the terms of 'impartiality' in the Good Friday Agreement.
A judicial review could go up before the supreme court, as it's to do with constitutional matters.
In addition, there is a row brewing over election expenses. Unlike mainland parties, Norn parties do not have to declare donations (for security reasons), hence rumours abound about darker forces channeling funds through Norn.
As an example DUP were given £400K to take out a 'LEAVE' advert in METRO'. Plus they misdeclared their election expenses, as did the Conservative party (luckily for them, the CPS declined to prosecute).
Big question is, people TOLD May (including Sinn Fein) the alliance was a breach of the GFA. Does she not have any advisers on this?
Theresa May will be the first Prime Minister since 1974 to go into the Queen's Speech with a minority government and the first in a hundred years to delay Her Maj.
Corbyn said 11 June he would put in an opposition Queen's Speech.
McDonnell has urged a big turn out for a demo.
Today could have a interesting outcome.
This is from BBC News.
ETA I note also that "Queen's Speech 2017: May promises 'humility'". Well, she has plenty to be humble about. Maybe she's trying to stop the Queen turning up in a minicab, and making the speech wearing jeans and a t-shirt.
The Queen will arrive at Parliament in a car, rather than horse-drawn carriage
There will be no royal procession into the House of Lords chamber and the Queen will wear "day dress" rather than robes
Her crown will be driven to the Lords in its own car, but she will wear a hat instead
It is the first state opening with "reduced ceremonial elements" since 1974
This was agreed because of timing issues caused by the snap election - rehearsals clashed with Saturday's Trooping the Colour event
I wonder if this reduction of "ceremonial elements" has been performed at the Queen's initiative, and is intended as a symbolic reprimand to Theresa May. Anyone here knowledgeable about these matters of protocol, and their hidden meanings?There will be no royal procession into the House of Lords chamber and the Queen will wear "day dress" rather than robes
Her crown will be driven to the Lords in its own car, but she will wear a hat instead
It is the first state opening with "reduced ceremonial elements" since 1974
This was agreed because of timing issues caused by the snap election - rehearsals clashed with Saturday's Trooping the Colour event
ETA I note also that "Queen's Speech 2017: May promises 'humility'". Well, she has plenty to be humble about. Maybe she's trying to stop the Queen turning up in a minicab, and making the speech wearing jeans and a t-shirt.
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I think it more to do with the poison chalice that she has left her successor. Who in their right minds would want to take on the job in these circumstances?
The key point is that potential successors probably think that things could get worse; they'll want to step in when the only way is up.