Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories V: Five for Fighting

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Since we've established the validity of my question "How did Dr. Finck see the entry hole in the intact skull after the brain had already been removed", I must remind everyone who still thinks the wound was high in the cowlick area to answer that in a way that isn't completely stupid, otherwise any reasonable person must revert to the original lower EOP location for the entry in the back of the head.
 
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To anybody trusting Axxman300 to tell them what to think: this guy thinks you can see the entry wound on the Zapruder Film.

Was there anywhere behind JFK that would have been impossible for the bullet to come from? The question will be there no matter how many times you scurry away from it.
 
Since we've established the validity of my question "How did Dr. Finck see the entry hole in the intact skull", I must remind everyone who still thinks the wound was high in the cowlick area to answer it in a way that isn't completely stupid, otherwise any reasonable person must revert to the original lower EOP location for the entry in the back of the head.

What is your comprehensive theory for the JFK assassination?
 
What is your comprehensive theory for the JFK assassination?

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To anybody trusting Axxman300 to tell them what to think: this guy thinks you can see the entry wound on the Zapruder Film.

You can.

You just need to have seen enough bullets strike their target, and just pay attention when watching the Zapruder Film.

It is the only bullet strike visible in any of the recorded footage.:thumbsup:
 
Since we've established the validity of my question "How did Dr. Finck see the entry hole in the intact skull after the brain had already been removed", I must remind everyone who still thinks the wound was high in the cowlick area to answer that in a way that isn't completely stupid, otherwise any reasonable person must revert to the original lower EOP location for the entry in the back of the head.

Sure, your question is valid, just as the 50+ answers to your question have been valid.
 
You're simply lost when your one CT website doesn't tell you what to think. You have no thoughts of your own about a comprehensive theory concerning the assassination?

He doesn't want to get pinned down and exposed.

He has probably figured out that all of the 2nd gunman theories have been shredded into mist by now, and since there is no viable theory currently he can't ape it. Plus, he's too lazy to advance a murkier CT that leaves LHO as the shooter, but involves shadowy evil-doers.

When I was a JFK-CTer the fabricated mystery of the assassination was a way to pretend I was doing something important for mankind, justice, and history without actually doing anything, but wasting money on books written by hucksters, and fools.:thumbsup:
 
You can.

You just need to have seen enough bullets strike their target, and just pay attention when watching the Zapruder Film.

It is the only bullet strike visible in any of the recorded footage.:thumbsup:

Can you get an image of z313 and draw what you're talking about over it with MS Paint?

Sure, your question is valid, just as the 50+ answers to your question have been valid.

Like a trophy that says "you tried", maybe.

He doesn't want to get pinned down and exposed.

He has probably figured out that all of the 2nd gunman theories have been shredded into mist by now, and since there is no viable theory currently he can't ape it. Plus, he's too lazy to advance a murkier CT that leaves LHO as the shooter, but involves shadowy evil-doers.

When I was a JFK-CTer the fabricated mystery of the assassination was a way to pretend I was doing something important for mankind, justice, and history without actually doing anything, but wasting money on books written by hucksters, and fools.:thumbsup:

You must have missed a step, because you're not very good at what you do now.
 
Nope, the photographic team was separate from the acoustics team. They said some heavy activity was happening before Kennedy went behind the sign. Unless you want to say that the level of subterfuge in the HSCA was just that massive, please say so because we can swiftly throw out any "evidence" they presented :D

Read the dissents by those House Committee members who voted against the findings of conspiracy. Every one of them references the fact that they found the acoustic study unconvincing or inadequate. Not one even mentions the photographic panel's conclusions about evidence for a shot at Z190 or thereabouts. Quite simply, they didn't find evidence in the Zapruder film to buttress the conclusion of a shot at that time wounding both JFK and Connally, and I don't either.

http://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/report/pdf/HSCA_Report_4_Remarks.pdf

The photographic panel, from a 'jiggle / blur analysis' of Zapruder's panning errrors, concluded the second greatest disturbance in panning motion occurred shortly before JFK went behind the sign (the head shot reaction of Zapruder is the greatest disturbance). However, they apparently didn't even consider something as simple as whether Zapruder was trying to decide at that point whether to stop filming or continue filming as the President went behind the sign, and if the latter, whether he should attempt to pan smoothly or jump ahead to the point where the President would emerge from the sign. Any indecision on Zapruder's part - and there must have been some - would affect his panning rate as he tried to decide how to proceed, and would introduce errors into their assumption that panning errors might be tied to gunshots.

The problem is the assumption that Zapruder would react to the sound of gunfire and that a panning motion or film blur analysis would allow them to scientifically determine when shots were fired in the Zapruder film. The greatest blur comes about five frames after the head shot, but that head shot is not just aural to Zapruder, it's visible... JFK's head explodes in a massive cloud of blood, bone, and brain. Of course Zapruder would react to that visual stimulus. But attempting to carry it to other shots where there was little visual reaction by anyone and where Zapruder only heard the sound of gunfire was a mistake, in my view.

Separate from that, the photographic panel also felt they noticed some reaction by President Kennedy by frame 207 to a "severe external stimulus" that they couldn't define.

That severe external stimulus could have been nothing greater than JFK's reaction to the first (missed) shot.

It was the attempt to marry the acoustic analysis conclusion of a 'impulse' at Z190 with the photographic panel's jiggle analysis that led to the conclusion of a shot wounding both men at that time (Z190). That was the only possible conclusion if the acoustic evidence was legitimate because, according to the acoustic panel, the next shot was about six seconds later (about frame 295) -- far too late for a shot to wound JFK and Connally.

So the Committee either had to shoehorn a shot wounding both men in at Z190 or conclude the acoustic analysis was flawed and didn't match what we can observe in the Zapruder film. They chose the former, but further analysis shows they should have chosen the latter.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol6/html/HSCA_Vol6_0017b.htm

Hank
 
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Since we've established the validity of my question "How did Dr. Finck see the entry hole in the intact skull after the brain had already been removed"...

We've established the exact opposite of what you claim. It has been answered by the statements of Dr. Finck and Dr. Humes and Dr. Boswell. And the HSCA forensic panel. Your pretense to the contrary is amusing, but not evidence.



I must remind everyone who still thinks the wound was high in the cowlick area to answer that in a way that isn't completely stupid...

Logical fallacy of Begging the Question, where you imbed in your point the conclusion you've already reached. This is also an example of you pretending to be your own best expert, as you rely solely on your own interpretations of the evidence and testimony, rather than on what the experts actually said.



...otherwise any reasonable person must revert to the original lower EOP location for the entry in the back of the head.

And still Begging the Question.

Hank
 
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LOL what's what about the fragments? The trail of fragments is nowhere near the hypothetical cowlick entry, let alone the EOP entry.

Only because you don't know where the cowlick entry is on the x-rays. You drew the circle too low, remember?



Hilarious. Bullets continue going straight after penetrating the head? No.

Cite the evidence to the contrary from the ballistic experiments done with Oswald's rifle by the Army. Reference the testimony of Dr. Olivier and Dr. Light. You don't get to just say 'no' and dismiss the evidence the HSCA forensic panel found important.



If a bullet entered the cowlick from the east sixth floor, it would probably exit the face unless it deflected from the right.

Cite the evidence for this statement. Or admit you just made it up and you have no evidence for this statement.



To say otherwise would require a comprehensive study from a team of photographic experts using modern technology.

So you have no evidence you can site, but if I want to object to your conclusion I need to disprove it with "a comprehensive study from a team of photographic experts using modern technology"? Shifting the burden of proof.

You want to claim something contrary to the conclusions of the autopsists and the HSCA forensic panel, you need to post the evidence for it. Ball is still in your court.



Here you just admit you dogmatically cling to the cowlick theory because it just seems like a beautiful, clean theory to you that, in your mind, must explain everything. Too bad it doesn't fir with the totality of evidence as we know it :D

The higher (not cowlick, that's just your assumption) wound location does fit the known evidence from start to finish. You got some evidence it doesn't fit? Let's hear it. And it should be able to overturn the evidence indicating shots from the Depository (that's part of the 'totality of evidence') -- like a second weapon found somewhere, and shells or bullets or fragments not traceable to Oswald's weapon. I'd love to hear all about your 'totality of evidence'. Let's hear it.

And just bear in mind it should be something other than your opinion, because your opinion is not evidence.

Hank
 
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Can you get an image of z313 and draw what you're talking about over it with MS Paint?
Can you draw a picture of your comprehensive theory for how the assassination happened? Surely you can do that with all of your opinions as evidence.

Like a trophy that says "you tried", maybe.
If only you would try. When will you be trying to accomplish something after your admission of defeat?

You must have missed a step, because you're not very good at what you do now.
You're very good at playing CTist. You parrot what one CT website tells you to think and are then stumped when the discussion doesn't go according to script and you are asked to think for yourself leaving your only option to be running away from questions. As you continually do.

According to the one CT website you parrot, where from behind JFK would it have been impossible for the shot to come?
 
Can you get an image of z313 and draw what you're talking about over it with MS Paint?

Nope. Not playing your game.



You must have missed a step, because you're not very good at what you do now.

In my defense I was a JFK CTist for 32 years, meaning I believed there was a conspiracy to kill JFK based on lies, fabricated evidence, out-of-context anecdotal evidence, and all stemming from paranoia about the government.

So I am digging myself out of a deep intellectual hole I dug. The irony is that this hole is being filled in from the dirt you're shoveling while digging your own hole.
 
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