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Justice Department appoints special prosecutor for Trump/Russia

Checkmite said:
Well no it didn't.

A lot of people seem to think it did, because they heard "mishandled the Clinton investigation", misinterpreted it, and stopped listening after that. The Trump Administration's (via the DoJ) complaint about Comey vis-à-vis the Clinton investigation is that he recommended against charges. The WH alleges Comey should have given all the evidence to the AG without offering an opinion on any of it and let the AG make a decision about charges on his own.
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To be precise, it was a mix:

From Rosenstein's letter:
The director was wrong to usurp the Attorney General's authority on July 5, 2016, and announce his conclusion that the case should be closed without prosecution. ...

Compounding the error, the Director ignored another longstanding principle: we do not hold press conferences to release derogatory information about the subject of a declined criminal investigation....

[re the last letter] the goal of a federal criminal investigation is not to announce our thoughts at a press conference.
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dudalb said:
Which will be interesting since the Congressional Leadership is openly warning Trump not to do it.
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Yeah but would they actually do anything? Adam Schiff said that Congress would pass a law establishing a special prosecutor and appoint Mueller. I'm not so sure if that would actually happen though.
 
Tony Stark said:
Yeah but would they actually do anything? Adam Schiff said that Congress would pass a law establishing a special prosecutor and appoint Mueller. I'm not so sure if that would actually happen though.
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I think at some point the GOP will tip, they can only tolerate so much before they recognize just how bad Trump is making them look.
 
Stacko said:
Well, knock me over with a feather. Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say.
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I really don't know how he couldn't. It's very clear that Trump absolutely committed Obstruction. Trump admitted he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. It's on tape just as it was with Nixon.

Now, do I expect that Trump face the consequences of his illegal actions? I doubt it as the Republican majority is not interested in crimes committed by Der Orange Fuhrer.
 
If Trump fires Mueller,and the Congress pretends nothing happens, I predict it will cause a polticial crisis with demonstrations and protests that will make anything the happened in the Sixties look like a Sunday School picnic.
 
He wasn't personally under investigation until he fired Comey.

Congrats you orange sack of garbage, you played yourself.
 
dudalb said:
If Trump fires Mueller,and the Congress pretends nothing happens, I predict it will cause a polticial crisis with demonstrations and protests that will make anything the happened in the Sixties look like a Sunday School picnic.
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I wish you were right, but I don't believe that. To so many people, the politics of today is just noise. They just go on with their lives. The 60s with both Civil Rights and the Vietnam War were front and center. This may be as or even more important, I just doubt that people today are that involved.
 
acbytesla said:
I wish you were right, but I don't believe that. To so many people, the politics of today is just noise. They just go on with their lives. The 60s with both Civil Rights and the Vietnam War were front and center. This may be as or even more important, I just doubt that people today are that involved.
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College students are still college students, and I'm sure there are plenty enough who think of themselves as activists prepared to go ape-****.
 
Babbylonian said:
College students are still college students, and I'm sure there are plenty enough who think of themselves as activists prepared to go ape-****.
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I don't see that at all. The 60s had some heavy weight issues. College Students didn't want to see their friends and relatives go off to fight, kill or die in some God forbidden jungle for reasons they barely understood. Then there was the issue of civil/human rights. A system that was grotesquely unfair. Do you really think that the firing of a special prosecutor today would result in more than a fraction of the protests resulting from those 2 issues?

Call me skeptical.
 
acbytesla said:
I don't see that at all. The 60s had some heavy weight issues. College Students didn't want to see their friends and relatives go off to fight, kill or die in some God forbidden jungle for reasons they barely understood. Then there was the issue of civil/human rights. A system that was grotesquely unfair. Do you really think that the firing of a special prosecutor today would result in more than a fraction of the protests resulting from those 2 issues?

Call me skeptical.
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Oh, I'll grant that dudalb is guilty of hyperbole, but I do think some serious **** could go down if Mueller comes through with solid evidence and legal basis for a criminal charge and nothing comes of it.

This wouldn't be a weak-ass perjury charge, after all.
 
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Babbylonian said:
Oh, I'll grant that dudalb is guilty of hyperbole, but I do think some serious **** could go down if Mueller comes through with solid evidence and legal basis for a criminal charge and nothing comes of it.

This wouldn't be a weak-ass perjury charge, after all.
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I'd love to see all hell break loose. My impression though is people are much less civilly involved than they were 20 years ago let alone how involved they were in the 60s.

Trump doesn't deserve to be President. He deserves to go to prison. And this was just his latest transgression. The man is a lying good for nothing turd. I for the life of me can't fathom how anyone with his track record of deceit, dishonesty and lack of character could be elected dog catcher let alone President.

I have NO DOUBT that Trump has been corrupted by the Russian oligarchy. None whatsoever. Otherwise, why are so many in his administration lying about their interactions with Russians. That's not illegal. So why hide it? No, there is a fire behind all that smoke.
 
I wonder if this "leak" is a deliberate move to goad Trump into firing someone else, proving Obstruction beyond doubt.
 
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