How Long Will Theresa May Last as Prime Minister (UK)

[SusanB-M1]

I don't disagree with this but the alternatives seem just as bad or worse. Labour did worse in the election so have even less authority or credibility. Another Tory leader will have the same problems plus not having been elected by the public.

May really has to reach out to all parties to try to cobble together some consensus on Brexit rather than focus on her narrow view of what it means. I think that's the only way forward now.

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In a world of make-believe, the best ideas and people in Conservative and Labour would put aside political and personal differences, co-operate and negotiate the best for all countries in the EU.

 

[Craig B]

Yes I think she will cling on that long, only because there doesn't currently seem to be anyone else the Tory party will unite behind.

On that basis, what standing will she have in her negotiations with EU27 representatives? "Johnnie Foreigner" will walk all over her.

 

[ddt]

On that basis, what standing will she have in her negotiations with EU27 representatives? "Johnnie Foreigner" will walk all over her.

None. She's reliant not only on the DUP for a majority, but also on internal opposition within the Tories PP that still exists. She can't miss a singe vote.

 

[Mojo]

Rolling about laughing to see sacked ex-Chancellor, now EVENING STANDARD Editor, George Osborne, continuing to stick the knife in May, calling her a, 'Dead Woman Walking' and 'on Death Row', whilst smiling gleefully.

He is having enormous fun, putting out a headline on Friday, 'Hung Out to Dry', over a picture of a gurning Theresa May.

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers/cover-1273

 

[Mojo]

May really has to reach out to all parties to try to cobble together some consensus on Brexit rather than focus on her narrow view of what it means. I think that's the only way forward now.

She doesn't know what it means. That's why she kept having to resort to "Brexit means Brexit".

 

[Vixen]

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers/cover-1273

ROFL

 

[jimbob]

Apparently even he isn't that insane:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2017-40231623



There's also the problem that while Boris is amusing in small doses under the glare of an election campaign he's going to make gaffe after gaffe and the joke is going to start wearing thin.

Anyone who does want to run will have to seem reluctant, but will be persuaded by the dire need of their party and country

I wouldn't rule Johnson out yet.

He might even manage to not make gaffes. He is perfectly intelligent enough to and presumably can be quite charming.

 

[baron]

I'd imagine she will last some time if the latest reports are correct - an apology to her backbenchers and three standing ovations in this afternoon's address. Her massive miscalculation could even strengthen the party. May needs everybody behind her now; before, she was too cocky and thought she could ignore those voices she didn't agree with. Even Boris is calling on everyone to support her. If she does go it will probably be a result of the BREXIT deal and not her recent performance, which was always the case in any event.

 

[Garrison]

I'd imagine she will last some time if the latest reports are correct - an apology to her backbenchers and three standing ovations in this afternoon's address. Her massive miscalculation could even strengthen the party. May needs everybody behind her now; before, she was too cocky and thought she could ignore those voices she didn't agree with. Even Boris is calling on everyone to support her. If she does go it will probably be a result of the BREXIT deal and not her recent performance, which was always the case in any event.

Oh please, Boris is calling on the party to back her because he doesn't want to be the one stuck with the blame when Brexit is a shambles. May has been forced to ditch her pet policies like grammar schools to postpone backbench revolts for a little while. May has demonstrated she's a shambolic leader and now she's a hostage to the whims of every backbencher with an axe to grind. I think this article is a lot closer to reality than your whistling in the dark:


Theresa May: The prisoner of No 10

 

[MikeG]

........ May has demonstrated she's a shambolic leader and now she's a hostage to the whims of every backbencher with an axe to grind........

She's toast, but in the interim..........I am not 100% sure you're right. The thing is, the MPs know the government is so precarious that they won't want to destabilise it. The alternative to May is Corbyn, and however much a Tory MP disagrees with something or other that May is proposing, he disagrees with Corbyn ten times as much. The quid pro quo is that May will have to ditch almost everything other than Brexit. This will be like the last year of the 2010-15 coalition, where almost nothing at all got done.

I'll have a little bet that we see the end of the public sector pay freeze fairly shortly, and we will also see a major adjustment to the repayment regime for student loans, such that most students won't ever have to repay them.

 

[dudalb]

I think the tipping point...and it will not take long....will be when the DUP makes an outrageous demand that most tories will find unacceptable.
May's government is dependent on the support of a bunch of religious wackjobs. Not a good position.

 

[baron]

Oh please, Boris is calling on the party to back her because he doesn't want to be the one stuck with the blame when Brexit is a shambles. May has been forced to ditch her pet policies like grammar schools to postpone backbench revolts for a little while. May has demonstrated she's a shambolic leader and now she's a hostage to the whims of every backbencher with an axe to grind. I think this article is a lot closer to reality than your whistling in the dark:


Theresa May: The prisoner of No 10

We'll see.

 

[angrysoba]

I think the tipping point...and it will not take long....will be when the DUP makes an outrageous demand that most tories will find unacceptable.
May's government is dependent on the support of a bunch of religious wackjobs. Not a good position.

I don't think so. This arrangement is really only one where they vote alongside each other on things like the budget and a few other issues. It doesn't mean that either party will be making other demands on each other as far as I know.

 

[Vixen]

So now a party of Sinn Fein MP's have flown into London, to tell us that they will not be taking up their seats at Westminster, as their 250K voters would not like it.

Yet they cannot resist stalking Arlene Foster and her handful of nine DUP MP's, still trying to thrash out a deal, after turning up with a 'shopping list' of >£1bn, apparently, towards Norn infrastructure.

In the meantime, John Major has popped up to say how concerned he is over the DUP-Conservative alliance.

Jeremy & co are chuckling at the chaos from the sidelines.

Monsieur Barnier has warned us to get on with it.

 

[MikeG]

.......Monsieur Barnier has warned us to get on with it.

Which was a stupid waste of breath, considering talks aren't due to start for over a week.

 

[Agatha]

There are some fascinating discussions going on in this thread, but not many of them are related to how long TM can/could/should remain as PM and/or leader of the Conservatives.

I will try to find the right place to split the thread, but in the meantime please take post-mortems of the election to a more appropriate thread; for now I'd suggest the General Election one unless there is a specific, discrete point that you want to make (in which case please feel free to start a new thread).

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Agatha

 

[jimbob]

There are some fascinating discussions going on in this thread, but not many of them are related to how long TM can/could/should remain as PM and/or leader of the Conservatives.

I will try to find the right place to split the thread, but in the meantime please take post-mortems of the election to a more appropriate thread; for now I'd suggest the General Election one unless there is a specific, discrete point that you want to make (in which case please feel free to start a new thread).

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Agatha

sadly I read TM as TragicMonkey, which would be a better idea, as well as more amusing.

 

[Vixen]

So now the DUP-Conservative alliance has 'been delayed until next week'.

I guess Arlene Foster's £1bn 'shopping list' has not gone down well.

 

[Vixen]

Heh, sorry to sound cynical, but it could be the DUP-Conservatives are using the Grenfell Tower tragedy to bury their own bad news of not coming up with a deal.

 

[MikeG]

So now the DUP-Conservative alliance has 'been delayed until next week'.

I guess Arlene Foster's £1bn 'shopping list' has not gone down well.

Don't be too cynical. It was delayed because of the London fire. Some politicians have a sense of what is appropriate at times like these, and Jeremy Corbyn tried to make a point about cuts.......