Yeah everyone knows that money should only be used to bribe companies like Toyota to stay in the UK if there's a hard brexit...
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Yeah everyone knows that money should only be used to bribe companies like Toyota to stay in the UK if there's a hard brexit...
ddt
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While I agree that Vixen sounds a bit too optimistic, and that Labour got less seats than the Tories, Labour made an incredible rebound no-one had held possible and the momentum (got it?) is theirs. They can face May with confidence in the Commons, while May has to cling on to each and every vote in their party and their Taliban-like allies to get a majority. Which will be a hell of a job. The Tory whips should negotiate for double pay.
I haven't looked into Corbyn's budget plans, but I vehemently disagree with your assessment of Thatcher. When she privatized water, gas, electricity, Royal Mail, British Telecom and British Rail, she sold out vital infrastructure that, IMHO, should belong to the collective people, to private, amoral moneygrubbers, and that's a burden she saddled up the children and grandchildren of those who voted for her, with.
British Rail is a clear case in point: there's more subsidy needed know to keep the trains running than when it still was nationalized. You're now still paying for the ideological rigidity of Mrs. Thatcher.
(and even when some of those weren't privatized under T. but later, it still was her program and ideology that drove it).
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Strawman alert.
There we go, on cue.
The election. The most seats. Power for her party.
That's my point exactly. She diddled us beautifully. But Corbyn has attempted to diddle not this generation, but the next. His pledges on student fees alone have been costed at £30 billion. Thirty billion he hasn't got, and couldn't get from "taxing the rich" blah blah...... So, he'd borrow,and leave the bill with the next generation, in the classic Labour way. Borrow, tax, and spend, spend, spend. Don't worry,, the Tories will be along to clean up the mess when it all comes crashing down, as it always does.
ddt
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Whom do you mean with "us"? What was British Rail is now for 80% in the hands of (daughter companies of) SNCF (the French Railways), Die Bahn (the German Railways) and NS (Dutch Railways). If your point is that I pay a low fare for train because the NS can put the screws on British train tickets they sell and thus get their profit, I won't object. But I don't see how that profits the British public.
ddt
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What power exactly?
She didn't get a majority, so now she's got to ally herself with terrorist sympathizers. With that, she already threw out her ability to wield power in getting NI back on the rails.
She's got a precarious small majority, so she's got to constantly look over her shoulder, make compromises with this or that wing within her own party, be it Brexit, the budget, the NHS, etc. etc.
And she's still got a bunch of incompetent fools for ministers who must implement the main policy, Brexit.
If someone offered me "power" under those conditions, I'd pass in a heartbeat.
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May called a completely unnecessary election in order to boost her power base in the House of Commons. Instead, she came out of it worse than she went in. By any rational standards, she gambled and lost.
How can this happen when their visions are so widely disparate that any middle ground would be equally toxic to either.
The Conservatives want to keep wogs out and march boldly back to the 1950s when Britain still had an Empire and blacks, women, poofs and Irish knew their place.
It's not entirely clear what the Labour Party want, but it's not that.
PWD?
Frankly, that's odious garbage, and you should be utterly ashamed of yourself. Please just remind us all which party introduced gay marriage. Which party has been led by a woman....nay, produced two female PMs? And you'll be able to point to a single racist thing anywhere in the last 7 years, naturally, as you're prepared to make allegations of racism. Pathetic, The Don. Pathetic.
Ah, another allegation of racism. Excellent. No doubt you have some evidence in support?
No, I thought not. As to what standing she'll have........head of government.
angrysoba
Philosophile
I agree with Mike G. This is just lazy caricature.
You thought not? You thought there is no correlation between Brexit and xenophobia? You think that all heads of government have the same standing? Excellent. No doubt you have evidence in support.
And what was the Conservative government's official policy on Brexit leading up to the referendum? Think carefully now.
Give me your argument and stop playing silly games.
She had more of these things before the election than after. If I go into the bookie with a hundred pounds, stake it, and come out with twenty pounds, I've won. Yes I suppose that's very true.
You "Brit gov/ Theresa May.......Johnny foreigner"
Me "That's racist".
You "There's no link between Brexit and xenophobia, huh?"
Me "The accusation was that the government was racist. Your logic for that is 'because Brexit'. The government (and Theresa May personally) however, was opposed to Brexit, and campaigned for Remain"
All in terms.
Me "That's racist".
You "There's no link between Brexit and xenophobia, huh?"
Me "The accusation was that the government was racist. Your logic for that is 'because Brexit'. The government (and Theresa May personally) however, was opposed to Brexit, and campaigned for Remain"
All in terms.
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I really don't know why this is proving so difficult for people to grasp. In a two horse race, the winner is the horse that comes first, not the one which comes second. Never mind that last time the race was run the winning distance was greater.
angrysoba
Philosophile
It's the horse that gets first past the post. In this case none of the horses managed it.