Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories V: Five for Fighting

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Axxman300 said:
I would pay money for a time machine just to see the look on any hitman's face when he's handed a .22 rifle with a silencer, and told he has to shoot Kennedy in a motorcade.

Pretty sure it would be the same as when he's told there is a second shooter who's going to be the patsy, and he's armed with a 6.5x52mm.

I would love to be there when this assassination scenario is hatched, and later approved. Multiple gunmen nobody sees, or actually fires their weapons, and we pin it all on a guy like Lee Oswald, a glory-hound who would turn us all in for that medal/reward/fame.
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The Onion had a headline on it that was hilarious, but it isn't close to hand.

IIRC they had a list of confiscated murder weapons from a Zipgun to a Ray Gun.
 
That latent CTist in me would love someone to find an Oswald co-conspirator.

Not the dead-horse kind, a well thought-out character.

You know, some guy Oswald meets in New Orleans. Maybe the guy is CIA, sub-contracts with the CIA, or is just an anti-Castro brain-trust guy. This guy gets Oswald fired up, takes him out to a ranch in the swamps where he gets the guy up to speed with his rifle, and gives him basic training in tradecraft.

This guy is mobile, and after Oswald fails with General Walker he comes to town when it is announced that JFK is coming to Dallas. This mystery man drives Oswald to those shooting ranges, and makes sure he is committed to the act. Maybe there is a back-up target if Kennedy has the bubble-top on, who knows.

That's what I would at least listen to. There would have to be pictures, and this mystery man would have taken a few to document Oswald's heroics/treason. You could have the CIA/Maffia hunting this guy down to shut him up for all of the usual reasons, or maybe he just was deep enough in the shadows to be unnoticed by history.

Give me that story and I'd give it a fair hearing.:thumbsup:
 
Axxman300 said:
That latent CTist in me would love someone to find an Oswald co-conspirator.

Not the dead-horse kind, a well thought-out character.

You know, some guy Oswald meets in New Orleans. Maybe the guy is CIA, sub-contracts with the CIA, or is just an anti-Castro brain-trust guy. This guy gets Oswald fired up, takes him out to a ranch in the swamps where he gets the guy up to speed with his rifle, and gives him basic training in tradecraft.

This guy is mobile, and after Oswald fails with General Walker he comes to town when it is announced that JFK is coming to Dallas. This mystery man drives Oswald to those shooting ranges, and makes sure he is committed to the act. Maybe there is a back-up target if Kennedy has the bubble-top on, who knows.

That's what I would at least listen to. There would have to be pictures, and this mystery man would have taken a few to document Oswald's heroics/treason. You could have the CIA/Maffia hunting this guy down to shut him up for all of the usual reasons, or maybe he just was deep enough in the shadows to be unnoticed by history.

Give me that story and I'd give it a fair hearing.:thumbsup:
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In Conspiratoria there are 10's of suspects that fit that profile to a "T."

The problem is that the various churches of Conspiratoria have never agreed on which suspect to indict and the high priests fight amongst themselves for primacy.

Until peace is declared, the high priests of Conspiratoria will never release the white smoke signifying the final judgement.

ETA: Need I mention the smoke will most likely emanate from a bong?
 
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Axxman300 said:
I would pay money for a time machine just to see the look on any hitman's face when he's handed a .22 rifle with a silencer, and told he has to shoot Kennedy in a motorcade.

Pretty sure it would be the same as when he's told there is a second shooter who's going to be the patsy, and he's armed with a 6.5x52mm.

I would love to be there when this assassination scenario is hatched, and later approved. Multiple gunmen nobody sees, or actually fires their weapons, and we pin it all on a guy like Lee Oswald, a glory-hound who would turn us all in for that medal/reward/fame.
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Well, Mr. "I can see the entry wound in the Zapruder Film", the Winchester 74 was advertised as potentially lethal at 100 yards. And see this video of how rapidly it can be fired. And there was only one undeniably lethal wound in Dealey Plaza.
 
MicahJava said:
Why talk vague when you can talk about specific issues?

The part of the skull some here think is the entry crater would have been chipped off in the process of removing the brain. But Dr. Finck arrived at the autopsy after the brain had already been removed and he always said he could examine the crater in the intact skull just fine. This indicates the hole they examined was lower in the skull, near the EOP, and not 4 inches above the EOP like the HSCA put it.

Rebuttal?
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Several pages in across two different threads and still no actual rebuttal of this issue.
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MicahJava said:
Well, Mr. "I can see the entry wound in the Zapruder Film", the Winchester 74 was advertised as potentially lethal at 100 yards. And see this video of how rapidly it can be fired. And there was only one undeniably lethal wound in Dealey Plaza.
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My buddy Manny could have killed JFK with a lime thrown from the TSBD.

I think you can safely take him off your suspect list as he was about 9 or 10 years old at the time and was most likely at home with his parents in Washington state.

The speculation in this post is just as relevant as the speculation in yours, but mine might be more entertaining, at least for adults.
 
MicahJava said:
[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/hzrXmvD.gif[/qimg]Several pages in across two different threads and still no actual rebuttal of this issue.[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/hzrXmvD.gif[/qimg]
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Must have overlooked this, post 315

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11874766&postcount=315

Weapons in custody w/ forensic confirmation beats speculation.

Since you earlier saw fit to compare your posts favorably to one of the greatest musicians and composer that have ever came down the road (Miles Davis, for those that missed another MJ's greatest misses) I find it so ironic that another musician using what obviously must have been ESP and the ability to predict the future had a hit song in 1961 predicting your posting style and your ability to communicate your position on this subject:

 
No BStrong, that's called changing the subject. You have no reason to think that this issue is "speculation" instead of proof the cowlick entry is a hoax. And before you screech "shifting the burden of proof", for all I know the brain removal problem is proof of the original low EOP location. I need specific critique to see if it stands up to scrutiny. I need YOUR help but all you've offered is BS.
 
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MicahJava said:
Well, Mr. "I can see the entry wound in the Zapruder Film", the Winchester 74 was advertised as potentially lethal at 100 yards. And see this video of how rapidly it can be fired. And there was only one undeniably lethal wound in Dealey Plaza.
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Yes, and the lethal wound was caused by a 6.5x52mm Carcano round, same at the back-through-neck-through Connally wound. Is round is the only bullet type fired on 11/22/63 in Dealey Plaza. So we can play Youtube videos of awsome guns of all kinds, but there was only one - the Carcano, and that is the 500 pound gorilla in this crime.
 
MicahJava said:
No BStrong, that's called changing the subject. You have no reason to think that this issue is "speculation" instead of proof the cowlick entry is a hoax. And before you screech "shifting the burden of proof", for all I know the brain removal problem is proof of the original low EOP location. I need specific critique to see if it stands up to scrutiny. I need YOUR help but all you've offered is BS.
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You don't want help.

I don't know how a cell phone works. I can look it up on Google, watch a couple of Youtube videos, but in the end I need to take the experts' word for it all. I'm sure I can also find "experts" who will tell me cell phones are powered by individual demons who all work for Cthulhu. The trick is not to get sucked into woo.
 
MicahJava said:
No BStrong, that's called changing the subject. You have no reason to think that this issue is "speculation" instead of proof the cowlick entry is a hoax. And before you screech "shifting the burden of proof",for all I know the brain removal problem is proof of the original low EOP location. I need specific critique to see if it stands up to scrutiny. I need YOUR help but all you've offered is BS.
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Asking for my help to prove the fact or fiction of your assertion is the text book definition of "shifting the burden of proof" but imo you hold the record for killing the irony meter and ******** meter on this website.

What the jive you are currently married to "proves" is that there is a difference in recollection and perception of the medical evidence, and that is all it proves.

I predict the fall back position will be the JAQ gambit, but you have played this particular angle out as close to the bitter end as possible.

You refuse to consider the established evidence as a whole to focus on one narrow and impossible to clarify piece of speculation that neither one of us has any professional expertise or professional experience in - I've seen a bunch of GSW's to the head. That doesn't make me an expert.

You have continually refused to consider any possibility of human error to be a contributing factor to the differing opinions in evidence about the evidence that is subject to this speculation.

You have repeatedly engaged in speculation specifically related to firearms and related issues when it is absolutely clear you have no idea what you're talking about and that is my particular field of professional expertise.

It's the conspiracy theorist Hat Trick.

Go head on and spin this to your heart's content, but this is about you trying desperately to work an angle on the established facts with no more knowledge of the subject matter than believing what somebody else wrote on the subject, primarily folks with no more knowledge of the subject matter than you - it's not a recipe for success.
 
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BStrong, I don't need your help proving the brain removal problem, I need your help DISproving it! :D
 
Tomtomkent said:
You need help showing there is an issue worthy of discussion.
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Okay, if you think the entry hole was in the cowlick 4 inches above the EOP, how did they remove the brain without separating that part of the skull?
 
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