Another terrorist attack - London Bridge

[Undesired Walrus]

Never seen anything like that before. Just went through Vauxhall and saw police vans surging down the road. What's going on?


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[Skeptic Tank]

Never seen anything like that before. Just went through Vauxhall and saw police vans surging down the road. What's going on?

You're being culturally enriched, that's what.

 

[BStrong]

There's a person who dislikes me on this forum and always likes to respond to me with "tick tock." (he uses it in reference to the supposedly impending irrelevance of people like me as we all merge into one indistinguishable mass.)

I'm culturally appropriating it.

Tick tock.

How many of these do people really believe Europeans will tolerate before the iron fist comes down? I personally think the iron fist of xenophobic overreaction is long overdue and sorely needed. I have no doubt it will arrive eventually though.

I was an eyeball witness to that type of response to an actual insurgency, and it failed miserably, even with no adherence to the established rules of engagement (Salvador and neighbors in the 1980's)

You can not kill your way out of these things

Right now in Salvador, they've basically exchanged Communistas for Mara Salvatrucha using the same techniques and it isn't doing any better now than it did then.

 

[carlvs]

If you want Muslims to be rounded up and shipped to Der Ost, it ain't gonna happen.

No, people of this ilk would more likely want to put them in cattle cars and sent to the "showers..."

 

[ctamblyn]

Given that the largest recent survey showed:
.........
only one in three British Muslims (34%) would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with jihadists.
.........

That isn't on the cards.

According to the same poll, the corresponding figure for the control group was only 30%.

(This was the ICM Unlimited survey for Channel 4. You can find the full results in PDF format on their website).

 

[ctamblyn]

The Metropolitan police are now saying that the Vauxhall incident is not related to the other two.

(ETA I'm getting updates from the @metpoliceuk account on Twitter.)

 

[IanS]

BBC radio 5-Live (continuous coverage for the last several hours) is reporting that the police have now confirmed that this is a terrorist attack.

Also now reported -

1 - reports of gunshots are most likely shots fired by the police … the attackers, several in number, believed armed only with large knives.

2 – reports of a stabbing several miles away in Vauxhall is not related to the terrorist attack which began with the white transit van running down pedestrians on London Bridge, and then continuing on foot with knives used in the streets directly around a pub/tavern across the bridge in the Borough Market area.

 

[applecorped]

A witness of the London Bridge incident said the attackers were yelling, “This is for Allah.”

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/06/03/london-bridge/

 

[shemp]

A witness of the London Bridge incident said the attackers were yelling, “This is for Allah.”

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/06/03/london-bridge/

Well, Allah better get his more lunatic followers under control before there is a violent xenophobic backlash.

 

[Myriad]

Well, Allah better get his more lunatic followers under control before there is a violent xenophobic backlash.

Xenophobes are lashing back, lashing back, lashing back, xenophobes are lashing back, my fair lady.

 

[IanS]

Latest thing is that BBC radio 5-Live are saying that the Sun newspaper are reporting that the police have shot dead up to 3 men who were apparently wearing some sort of suicide bomb devices (or so it appeared to witnesses).

But that's a very early and new report from the Sun, and the Sun may be an unreliable source. However a close eye witness (living in a flat directly above the scene) described to the BBC how he could clearly see and hear the police being directed away from the Tavern towards the market area where witnesses on the ground were telling the police that the attacker/s had run off into that market area, and the witness then described how he very clearly heard several gunshots … IOW, he was agreeing that it might easily be the case that the police had shot one or more of the attackers.

 

[BobTheCoward]

How many of these do people really believe Europeans will tolerate before the iron fist comes down? I personally think the iron fist of xenophobic overreaction is long overdue and sorely needed. I have no doubt it will arrive eventually though.

Considering the low murder rate there is probably a lot of slack.

 

[angrysoba]

Never seen anything like that before. Just went through Vauxhall and saw police vans surging down the road. What's going on?

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Jihadi attack.

 

[angrysoba]

Latest thing is that BBC radio 5-Live are saying that the Sun newspaper are reporting that the police have shot dead up to 3 men who were apparently wearing some sort of suicide bomb devices (or so it appeared to witnesses).

But that's a very early and new report from the Sun, and the Sun may be an unreliable source. However a close eye witness (living in a flat directly above the scene) described to the BBC how he could clearly see and hear the police being directed away from the Tavern towards the market area where witnesses on the ground were telling the police that the attacker/s had run off into that market area, and the witness then described how he very clearly heard several gunshots … IOW, he was agreeing that it might easily be the case that the police had shot one or more of the attackers.

Pic here of man with cannisters strapped to him:
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-40147014

 

[Caper]

All Brits, be they Jew, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, should unite against the scourge of Islamist Extremism.

The Muslims aren't going anywhere, like you or someone said, but it's time we stop pretending there is not a SERIOUS problem in that community. Not an equivalent problem that every other religion must deal with, but a very specfic problem or problems with Islam. No doubt it can be come as toothless as Christianity is in the UK, but it's going to take a long time and work.

 

[332nd]

There's a person who dislikes me on this forum and always likes to respond to me with "tick tock." (he uses it in reference to the supposedly impending irrelevance of people like me as we all merge into one indistinguishable mass.)

I'm culturally appropriating it.

Tick tock.

How many of these do people really believe Europeans will tolerate before the iron fist comes down? I personally think the iron fist of xenophobic overreaction is long overdue and sorely needed. I have no doubt it will arrive eventually though.

I don't dislike you dear boy! I find you mildly amusing & occasionally useful. (It's Tick, tick, tick btw)

Like now for instance, you do realize that there are European Muslims as well right? They can be corrupted as well, so xenophobia isn't gonna help much.

 

[Bogative]

A witness of the London Bridge incident said the attackers were yelling, “This is for Allah.”

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/06/03/london-bridge/

Islamic terrorist: "this is for allah"

Apologist media: "motive unknown"

 

[Beady]

Islamic terrorist: "this is for allah"

Apologist media: "motive unknown"

This signature is intended to irritate people.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I was just going through London Bridge and at the next station officers with sub machine guns screamed at us to evacuate the station. Scary ****


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Glad it sounds like you are OK. Sorry about your fellow Londoners though.

 

[angrysoba]

There's a person who dislikes me on this forum and always likes to respond to me with "tick tock." (he uses it in reference to the supposedly impending irrelevance of people like me as we all merge into one indistinguishable mass.)

I'm culturally appropriating it.

Tick tock.

How many of these do people really believe Europeans will tolerate before the iron fist comes down? I personally think the iron fist of xenophobic overreaction is long overdue and sorely needed. I have no doubt it will arrive eventually though.

It's one thing to have a principled opposition to bad ideas, and another to simply have irrational racial hatred. You exhibit the latter and very occasionally attempt to hide it under the former.