Justice Department appoints special prosecutor for Trump/Russia

Trebuchet said:
He should. But he's very, very, stupid.

You know what scares the bleep out of me? "President Pence". Trump, for all his multitude of faults, is at least not a fundie.
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Lol
Not only that, the establishment loves him. Either way your side is still screwed.
 
Spindrift said:
Sessions gives Mueller a few months and then unilaterally declares the investigation hasn't found anything and thanks, Mr. Mueller, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Except Sessions recused himself. Which is why Rosenstein was able to do it.
 
Foolmewunz said:
And if the AG has had to recuse himself for potential conflict of interests? Does this fall to his subordinate (just as appointing the Counsel did) or does Beauregard step out of recusaldom (again) to do the borking?
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It should fall to the Deputy AG but, since the recusal was voluntary, Sessions is still legally clear to do what he will.
 
Spindrift said:
Sessions gives Mueller a few months and then unilaterally declares the investigation hasn't found anything and thanks, Mr. Mueller, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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You think there won't be incriminating evidence that includes Sessions by that time?
 
Spindrift said:
Who is going to prosecute him? A Republican Congress? Not a chance.
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Actually, I'm not so sure about that. They are interested in what is best for their party. Allowing this total screwup take them down with him can't be attractive. Most of them would trade Pence for Trump in a heartbeat.
 
I figured it was a matter of time before Trump came head to head with a coalition of law-and-order types who eat, drink, and breathe notions of justice and who's sphincters tighten at every whiff of impropriety in a public office.

I felt like the end of Comey's letter had some of that shading to it:

It is very hard to leave a group of people who are committed only to doing the right thing. My hope is that you will continue to live our values and the mission of protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution.

If you do that, you too will be sad when you leave, and the American people will be safer.
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Mueller-Rosenstein-Comey is apparently that faction, and likely represents a great deal more. I heard those same phrases repeated in quotes all over the place over the next few days. When Sessions recused himself, Trump could no longer shield himself from a hostile DOJ (if needed). It seems like they were willing to leave things alone as long as the FBI investigation went unmolested. When Trump fired Comey, that was too much. Rosenstein very cunningly danced around the recent possible classified intel divulgence to Russia, and at the time I spat a little venom at him for the evasiveness. However, with hindsight it's very likely he had to in order to avoid either a) knowingly lying and thus making himself a co-conspirator or b) resigning in protest and thus losing the legal authority to enact a response. Appointing a special prosecutor is essentially Rosenstein recusing himself now, as well as moving the investigation further from (now proven) potential Trump interference. The DOJ itself is going to be under investigation given how deep Sessions is involved.

If they really got their ducks in a row, Comey has probably told Mueller exactly which FBI agents/units to fold into the Special Prosecutor's office and the investigation continues without having to start all over.
 
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acbytesla said:
Actually, I'm not so sure about that. They are interested in what is best for their party. Allowing this total screwup take them down with him can't be attractive. Most of them would trade Pence for Trump in a heartbeat.
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He's a Republican president. A lot of Republicans don't care about anything but that, they won't impeach one of their own even if he is an idiot and an embarrassment. It would take something immense for them to impeach him and I'm not sure taking bribes from Russia is big enough for them.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You think there won't be incriminating evidence that includes Sessions by that time?
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That's reason that Sessions would get rid of Mueller even sooner. Remember you have a president who is used to getting his way no matter what. And I think he has an AG in Sessions who will do whatever Trump wants. Trivialities like obstruction of justice and bribery are for the little people not Donald J Trump.
 
Spindrift said:
You are aware that Session's boss is Trump. After these first three months, I'm not sure anything is going to shock me.
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So Trump is going to demand that Sessions unrecuse himself and fire Mueller?

I hope he's that stupid.

The only move Trump has is to hope that Mueller doesn't find anything on him.
 
http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/statement-appointment-robert-mueller

My priority has been to ensure thorough and independent investigations are allowed to follow the facts wherever they may lead. That is what we’ve been doing here in the House. The addition of Robert Mueller as special counsel is consistent with this goal, and I welcome his role at the Department of Justice. The important ongoing bipartisan investigation in the House will also continue.
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:rolleyes:
 
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