Thanks, Hank. You read it correctly, of course.
JFK Conspiracy Theories IV: The One With The Whales
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Thanks, Hank. You read it correctly, of course.
Not only that, Dave, but I don't recall characterizing the winning of points as an endgame. To the contrary, the winning of points is a mid-game exercise that seeks to build reputation in the eyes of others as one is striving towards an endgame achievement.
RoboTimbo
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You ran away from answering again. Do you know of any CTists who would have the courage to answer?
MicahJava
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Instead of incoherent nonsense, have you tried watching the video that was linked and grasping how anybody could hit one of those ANTS smack-dab in the middle of the head with the iron sights?
RoboTimbo
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Answer the question that was asked, not the one you wish had been. Don't continue to run away.
Micah, have you considered how tiny and ant-like the targets must have seemed when Oswald in the Marines scored as a sharpshooter and later as a marksman, firing from a sitting position through iron sights at 200 yards (more than twice as far as JFK on November 22, 1963)? In Dallas, whether or not he used the iron sights, he made only one out of three bull's-eyes (worse than his Marine Corps scores), aiming at a slow-moving vehicle from a nest with stable support for his rifle. Yet a sub-marksman performance was all that was required to kill the President.
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MicahJava
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Kennedy's head appeared to be like, what, about the diameter of the middle pair of lamp posts? Or probably less because the Stemmons Freeway sign was removed shortly after the assassination, hard to find a point of reference. Compared to a stationary target with a scope? Or if it was without a scope, it's a simple matter of focusing the sights on a sweet spot you know will get the desired results. And you're laying down aiming at a target across from you.
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RoboTimbo
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Where did the head shot come from and who made it?
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Probably from someone with a proper scope.
He hit JFK's "ant-like" head only once out of three shots. That attests to some difficulty for the shot, but not its impossibility.
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RoboTimbo
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You're saying it would have been impossible for Oswald to have hit a head sized object at 70 yards with the gun he brought into the TSBD?
bknight
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You've never trained in the use of rifles, have you. It has been almost 50 years since I trained in the Army. The only personnel that had scopes were snipers, so most trained with just iron sites. The idea was to hit the target "people" not just in the head but body as well, and we were on the move, not just in a fixed position. So no the heads weren't "ant sized" and to score expert you had to hit the target, anywhere, IIRC 80%. LHO fired 3 shots and hit 2 so not an expert but good enough. The doctors identified two wound, no more, and the X-rays show that, the images have shadows in them and are not "in the same shape" as before the bullet exploded the skull and ejected part of the brain.
Cosmic Yak
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Which again brings us back to the question I asked (and MicahJava has ignored) a little while ago:
Why would the Evil Them contrive to plant a gun, and its bullets, plus all the other evidence linking LHO to the gun, if it was impossible for that gun to have made the shots? How would that add credibility to their Evil Plot? Why not use a gun with a scope?
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What am I supposed to think? The diameter of Kennedy's head would appear to be less than the diameter of the front sight. There's no misleading LN spin to change that.
RoboTimbo
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Do you know what a gun is?
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RoboTimbo
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Back to the question you've consistently run away from and cower away from answering: How many bullets do you think Oswald got into Kennedy?
bknight
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Again, you have never trained with a rifle. Your estimates are way too small.
The head shot is difficult but not impossible. Besides in all likelihood he used the scope, all of the reconstructions have used the scope. Why should we believe LHO did not use the scope? What evidence do you possess that the scope was not used?
HSienzant
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There is no end-game for Conspiracy Theorists... keeping the conversation going so as to give the illusion that they have valid points to make is the whole point; it's their raison d'être.
So are we done with the rifle and the money order yet?
Or do you guys (MicahJava & No Other) plan to circle back to that in another month or two once sufficient time has elapsed that you can pretend we haven't established that Oswald ordered, paid for, and took possession of the rifle bearing the serial number C2766?
Hank
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If somebody wants to post things that aren't true, they should expect to be corrected. It's not "us vs them" - it's truth vs falsehood and myth. Of course, which is which depends on what one believes is true. But only one side has all the evidence.
If one side ate its own that would make for a better environment? No sure what point you're trying to make here.
Plus the 26 volumes of evidence and testimony, plus the HSCA 12 volumes, plus about 500 books on the subject, most of which are by conspiracy authors.
Negative. I said quite clearly I formed my own opinions from the evidence and testimony, which reveals how the conspiracy authors make mountains out of molehills, level plains, and sometimes even valleys.
Wow. A rather obvious attempt to change the subject, don't you think? And how do you know what I think about GDM? We haven't discussed him whatsoever, and I doubt you've read the entire thread.
Yes, like a cat plays with a mouse. The mouse knows who has the upper hand.
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bknight
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Or that this rifle fired the shots, with particle evidence linking back to the ammunition?
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