Merged Trump Fires Comey....

[Donal]

I think this borders on lying by omission

1/24: FBI interviews Flynn
1/26: Yates warns White House about Flynn
1/27: Trump summons Comey for dinner, asks for loyalty[/URL]
1/27 trump issues unconstitutional executive order on entry
1/30 Sally Yates refuses to enforce the unconstitutional order
1/30: Sally Yates fired
2/03 Unconstitutional order blocked by court

Since we're correcting omissions.

 

[Giordano]

This is an apt description of every Trump supporter on this Forum: nothing matters other than jabbing liberals and convincing oneself that they're very upset.

Absolutely my impression too.

Yet I also believe that many of these "liberal jabbers" are very cognizant of just how crazy, dangerous, and repugnant Trump really is, and that privately they share the same feelings of worry and disgust as do the rest of us.

Whether they do or not truly support Trump in their heart of hearts (and how would I ever know for certain?), I view supporting Trump as incurring its own revenge: Trump's actions hurt his supporters at least as much as they hurt his opponents.

 

[dudalb]

Not just Trumpers. The whole piece is an excellent indictment of the emptiness that has encompassed the Republican Party by abandoning conservatism is favor of trolling. The lulz are not a sufficient end goal to maintain the movement.

There are some Conservatives who get this:


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447557/donald-trump-james-comey

(George Will and Jennifer Rubin are others) but a lot do not.
I think you are seeing a massive miscalucation by the GOP leadership in Congress;I think they know that the Trump presidency is headed for a trainwreck but they hope to get the main points of their agenda passed before the locomotive goes over the bridge. That is where they are making their mistake:the locomotive is out of control,and will go ever the edge before their agenda get passed.

 

[WilliamSeger]

There are some Conservatives who get this:


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447557/donald-trump-james-comey

(George Will and Jennifer Rubin are others) but a lot do not.
I think you are seeing a massive miscalucation by the GOP leadership in Congress;I think they know that the Trump presidency is headed for a trainwreck but they hope to get the main points of their agenda passed before the locomotive goes over the bridge. That is where they are making their mistake:the locomotive is out of control,and will go ever the edge before their agenda get passed.

Plus, somebody forgot to figure out what "their agenda" was; it's possible they can't get anything significant passed. (ETA except tax cuts for the rich -- no problem for any Republicans.)

 

[BobTheCoward]

Since we're correcting omissions.

If they are unconstitutional is merely an opinion at this point.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump on Judge Janine:"It depends on your definition of loyalty."
"I didn't ask that question but there wouldn't be anything wrong if I did."

Sounds like the same 'tell' as Trump used pretending not to know his campaign staff had met with the Ruskies.

 

[Belz...]

The sample can produce different results than the population. That makes it wrong.

That would make ALL polls wrong, then. So your claim is ridiculous.

I make no claims about the applicability of that statement to these events, this is purely a note for pedantic purposes.

Because of course you do.

 

[phiwum]

At this point Trump could **** a rhubarb pie live on Fox News and some people will still talk about what a brilliant move it was.

On my first reading of your post, I filled in the wrong four-letter word and thought, "If he can actually defecate an identifiable whole rhubarb pie, that would be pretty remarkable. Maybe not brilliant, but surely noteworthy."

 

[Belz...]

Oh since you asked so nicely:

figure it out yourself, it is really *********** obvious.

In other words, you can't explain it because there's nothing there.

 

[Belz...]

It will anger the right people and that's all that matters.

It really shows how little the election results had to do with meanie liberals and angered conservatives, and much more to do with decades of tribal polarization.

It's completely insane. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

[Childlike Empress]

That would make ALL polls wrong, then. So your claim is ridiculous.

Non sequitur, but in fact almost all polls are wrong, that's why they come with a margin of error. The map is not the territory.

 

[Sideroxylon]

On my first reading of your post, I filled in the wrong four-letter word and thought, "If he can actually defecate an identifiable whole rhubarb pie, that would be pretty remarkable. Maybe not brilliant, but surely noteworthy."

There do seem to be a lot of people who believe he does poo such pies, which too keenly gobble down.

 

[Belz...]

Non sequitur, but in fact almost all polls are wrong, that's why they come with a margin of error. The map is not the territory.

No, it's very sequitur. NO poll corresponds to the exact makeup of the entire population. That's Zig's argument, not mine. For me, all a poll has to do is approximate the larger opinion, and most election polls did just that: Clinton was more likely to win, and she did get quite a few more votes, but the exact distribution of the votes cost her the EC and there's no way the polls could accurately predict that.

 

[Childlike Empress]

No, it's very sequitur. NO poll corresponds to the exact makeup of the entire population. That's Zig's argument, not mine.

And it's correct and not ridiculous at all. But Ziggurat didn't say it that way.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

I will repeat something I said a while back...

I think the word "censure" needs to make a comeback.

Might be hard to impossible to pass, but I'd like to see senators forced to take a stand on this, even if it broke along party lines.

I think a few select Republicans (McCain? Rubio?) might just go along with the idea.

 

[portlandatheist]

Why the FBI might wage “war” on Trump — and how they would actually do it
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/11/15624544/fbi-trump-comey-war

Starting a fight with the bureau is inadvisable for every president, and especially so for a president with a history of legal problems. But by firing Comey, Trump has invited war.

Trump can't help but collect more and more enemies but this time, he won't be able to fire all them. I don't think he'll get impeached even though that is my hope, but rather it will be a never-ending series of scandals and controversies without anything getting accomplished. It will be like the Iran-Contra scandal or Clinton's scandal but he'll never be able to climb out of.
As this article says, it isn't just the Russian connection, they can go after him for many other shady endeavors, his enemies are growing and they are going to make his presidency miserable.

 

[Arcade22]

That is where they are making their mistake:the locomotive is out of control,and will go ever the edge before their agenda get passed.

I'd say that Trump's actions has already been so terrible that it's fair to say that this Presidency is already over the edge and we're just waiting for the train to hit rock bottom.

Don't worry though. American has gone through a lot of tough situations before. At least Trump isn't as bad as Hitler (at least yet) so Americans just gotta grin and bear all this crazies.

 

[TragicMonkey]

I'd say that Trump's actions has already been so terrible that it's fair to say that this Presidency is already over the edge and we're just waiting for the train to hit rock bottom.

He's only doing a little bit worse than William Henry Harrison was at this point in his term.

 

[Jim_MDP]

He's only doing a little bit worse than William Henry Harrison was at this point in his term.

Harrison had an advantage though... what with the not breathing thing and all.

 

[dudalb]

He's only doing a little bit worse than William Henry Harrison was at this point in his term.

Dammit, I was going to say that......