The Trump Presidency

[TraneWreck]

So the republicans were different in Clintons two terms, he got impeached for crying out loud! Try again!

I mean, this is easy to prove:

 

[logger]

Usually the President doesn't have a senate whose sole objective is to stop him achieving anything and yet Obama managed to turn the economy around, repair US relations with many key allies, get ACA passed and stopped torture to name but a few things.

Here we go again, trying to change history that somehow Obama was this great compromiser. It's truly fascinating. He turned the economy around? How?

Repair US relations, with a reset button? The world is on

Yes he did stop our military from getting information from bad guys.
And he did ruin our healthcare system which is getting ready to implode on itself

 

[logger]

I mean, this is easy to prove:

Lol
Thanks for making my point.

Obama the great compromiser.

 

[TraneWreck]

Lol
Thanks for making my point.

Obama the great compromiser.

Right, but again, your point is absurd. Obama tried to compromise, but he was rebuffed. This chart is yet more evidence of that.

Trust me, we're all familiar with your silly games.

 

[The Don]

Here we go again, trying to change history that somehow Obama was this great compromiser. It's truly fascinating. He turned the economy around? How?

I was responding your your allegation that Obama achieved nothing and that this was an indicator that he didn't compromise. I was pointing out that he got a lot done.

Repair US relations, with a reset button? The world is on

...and yet it was far worse under Bush and looks to be getting far worse under Trump. At least under Obama the US was only in conflict with its enemies, now it's also in conflict with its allies

Yes he did stop our military from getting information from bad guys.
And he did ruin our healthcare system which is getting ready to implode on itself

Ruined a system which was about the most expensive in the world but had some of the poorest outcomes in the developed world ?

 

[logger]

Right, but again, your point is absurd. Obama tried to compromise, but he was rebuffed. This chart is yet more evidence of that.

Trust me, we're all familiar with your silly games.

Like every liberal, obama tried! He failed but tried, lets make him the great failing compromiser.

The chart is evidence of his failure to move anything forward, why, because he wouldn't compromise. You always make this easy!

 

[TraneWreck]

Like every liberal, obama tried! He failed but tried, lets make him the great failing compromiser.

The chart is evidence of his failure to move anything forward, why, because he wouldn't compromise. You always make this easy!

Well, when you're not bound by the limits of fact and reality, I guess it is pretty easy to generate glib, unconvincing responses.

 

[logger]

I was responding your your allegation that Obama achieved nothing and that this was an indicator that he didn't compromise. I was pointing out that he got a lot done.

In his first two years when he didn't have to, dare I say it, compromise

...and yet it was far worse under Bush and looks to be getting far worse under Trump. At least under Obama the US was only in conflict with its enemies, now it's also in conflict with its allies

The republican always has to clean up after the democrat.

Ruined a system which was about the most expensive in the world but had some of the poorest outcomes in the developed world ?

So you agree he ruined it?

 

[Ambrosia]

The chart is evidence of his failure to move anything forward, why, because he wouldn't compromise. You always make this easy!

I'll go ahead and add compromise to the list of terms you don't understand as well then.

 

[logger]

Well, when you're not bound by the limits of fact and reality, I guess it is pretty easy to generate glib, unconvincing responses.

lol
When a president is given the label of a compromiser, he usually has things to show for it. look at what Clinton was able to get done with bipartisan support.

 

[TraneWreck]

lol
When a president is given the label of a compromiser, he usually has things to show for it. look at what Clinton was able to get done with bipartisan support.

Yawn. You gave him the "label of a compromiser," whatever that means.

Obama was a centrist who tried to compromise over and over and was rebuffed by extreme, dishonest, racist Republicans.

This is what happened in reality. I don't know what version you get from the deranged media spewing ******** that you gobble up so eagerly.

 

[logger]

I'll go ahead and add compromise to the list of terms you don't understand as well then.

Why don't you just put up Obamas list of great legislative compromises.

 

[logger]

Obama was a centrist who tried to compromise over and over and was rebuffed by extreme, dishonest, racist Republicans.

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Lol
******* hilarious.

Unless Obama was the extreme dishonest leftist?

 

[Spindrift]

Why don't you just put up Obamas list of great legislative compromises.

First give us a list of people, besides yourself, who have labeled Obama a compromiser.

 

[Belz...]

Here we go again, trying to change history that somehow Obama was this great compromiser. It's truly fascinating. He turned the economy around? How?

Here we do again, pretending to have no knowledge of facts.

GOP obstructionism during Obama's terms is a fact.

 

[Belz...]

Why don't you just put up Obamas list of great legislative compromises.

lol.

 

[logger]

First give us a list of people, besides yourself, who have labeled Obama a compromiser.

TraneWreck?

 

[logger]

Here we do again, pretending to have no knowledge of facts.

GOP obstructionism during Obama's terms is a fact.

Did you think they republicans should have just stepped out of the way? Aren't you one of those down the middle compromising advocates?

 

[TraneWreck]

Lol
******* hilarious.

Unless Obama was the extreme dishonest leftist?

No, he was a centrist. Again, this is reality. I would recommend avoiding the media establishments that feed you ******** so that you can join us in the real world.

 

[TraneWreck]

TraneWreck?

I said that Obama wanted to compromise. I have no idea what you mean when you say "compromiser."

You transparently shifted from a discussion of whether Obama reached out to Republicans (which he did, over and over) to a standard of "completed compromises."

It was fairly trivial to show the latter, given my familiarity with reality, but the primary dynamic of the Obama years was Obama trying to arrive at a compromise and being denied.

Whether that is a "compromiser" or not, we can never know since you seem to have a different meaning for that term than those of use inhabiting reality.