Merged Jeffrey MacDonald did it. He really did.

[desmirelle]

What (expletive deleted) "exculpatory" evidence? The super 8 made by the mythical intruders??? Or didn't you know that the imaginary intruders made an equally imaginary film of the murders and their party in the quarters afterward, which resulted in the neighbors calling the MPs and the intruders running away and the MPs finding the crime scene.......

BTW, enough already of your multiple personality postings.

 

[Henri McPhee]

A little sidenote, neither inmate, Stoeckley or ANY MacDonald advocate has EVER provided a murder timeline in this case.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

What is it about the murder timeline that you don't understand? Helena Stoeckley said somewhere that she left Dunkin' Donuts with Bruce Fowler in his car to go the MacDonald apartment at about 2am.

Jeff MacDonald explained exactly what happened to the Army CID in April 1970:

MacDonald: Let's see. Monday night my wife went to bed, and I was reading. And I went to bed about -- somewheres around two o'clock. I really don't know; I was reading on the couch, and my little girl Kristy had gone into bed with my wife.
And I went in to go to bed, and the bed was wet. She had wet the bed on my side, so I brought her in her own room. And I don't remember if I changed her or not; gave her a bottle and went out to the couch 'cause my bed was wet. And I went to sleep on the couch.

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Trimmed for rule 4. Will you please remember to post a SHORT (no more than one or two paragraphs) extract when you copypaste from elsewhere, and to provide a link.

 

[Henri McPhee]

More about the murder timeline from a MacDonald legal defense document. This needs to be believed by Judge 'in bed with the prosecution' Fox.:

At 10:30 p.m. that evening, Stoeckley, Mitchell, Harris, "Smitty" and others met at Stoeckley's apartment and discussed going to MacDonald's home. (J.A. pp. 2750, 2824-25, 2888-89). The group imbibed in narcotics, including marijuana, mescaline and LSD. (J.A. pp. 2671-78, 2759, 2816, 2825-26). Stoeckley, Mitchell and "Smitty" went to the Apple House Restaurant around 11:00 p.m. and left at closing time to go to the Dunkin' Donuts Restaurant. "Smitty" was wearing a fatigue jacket with E-6 stripes. (J.A. pp. 151, 205, 2683, 2826).

At 2:00 a.m., Stoeckley, Mitchell, Harris and "Smitty" left Dunkin' Donuts and drove to MacDonald's residence as Mitchell urged them to "get on with it." Stoeckley stated that they got out of a car a few doors from MacDonald's house, walked to the back of the residence and entered through an unlocked door. (J.A. pp. 206, 2678, 2694, 2746, 2752, 2804, 2806, 2892-94, 2911, 3030-32). They went through the house into the living room where MacDonald slept on the couch. (J.A. pp. 26, 2679, 2695, 2752, 2808, 2820, 2896, 3032). Stoeckley lit a candle to provide light additional to the dim light in the house. (J.A. pp. 2679, 2695, 2753, 2762).

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[Henri McPhee]

The interview with Jeff MacDonald in April 1970 by the Army CID where he explains the murder timeline is at:

www.thejeffreymacdonaldcase.com/html/interview1970.html

The Stoeckley crowd murder timeline is in a legal document by the defense in 1985 at:

www.thejeffreymacdonaldcase.com/html/defense-brief-1985-05-31.html

 

[JTF]

Wrong Again, And Again, And Again

Despite the claims leveled from the landlord of MacFantasy Island, nobody on the wrong side of the fence has produced a salient timeline in this case. The gaps in the 4/6/70 story produced by a mass murderer are as wide as the Grand Canyon. To argue that Stoeckley presented a concrete timeline is beyond laughable.

The ONLY story she repeated is the polar opposite of a linear timeline. The landlord of MacFantasy Island know what I'm talking about. By my count, Stoeckley stated at least 10 times that due to excessive drug, she had no memory of her whereabouts on 2/17/70. One of these statements was under oath at the 1979 trial.

In terms of MacDonald advocates, they've taken great pains in making sure that inmate's fuzzy memory shouldn't be held against him. They then piggyback on that perception by refusing to offer a timeline. The reason why is crystal clear. It is an impossible task to square the physical evidence with a narrative involving hippie home invaders entering 544 Castle Drive.

The Fred Bost's and Errol Morris' of the world knew this going into their worthless book projects, so they took the cowards way out by handing in the contamination card. They then had the stones to take back this card and replace it with the household debris card. Pathetic.

Since 2007, I've issued the timeline challenge to MacDonald advocates and all I've heard are cricket noises. This challenge is quite simple. Using the physical evidence collected at the crime scene, construct a step by step timeline of what occurred on 2/17/70. Silverglate, Bost, Morris, and the landlord of MacFantasy Island and his ilk have been unable to answer my challenge.

Silverglate, Bost, Morris, and the landlord of MacFantasy Island are well aware of the fact that I had no problem constructing a step by step murder timeline.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com/html/timeline.html

 

[Henri McPhee]

Silverglate, Bost, Morris, and the landlord of MacFantasy Island are well aware of the fact that I had no problem constructing a step by step murder timeline.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com/html/timeline.html

You are making it up. It's embarrassing. That's a theory without facts. Stombaugh of the FBI lab only said it could be, and the same with the threads.

A court, including Judge 'in bed with the prosecution' Fox, must take into consideration nothing but the evidence in the case before it, and witnesses other than experts must not be allowed to give their opinions, but must speak only as to facts. There needs to be a careful investigation in the MacDonald case to elicit the truth, and right judgment.

There are too many Americans who are half-mad, including in the CIA, and who are in the pay of Saudi Arabia, with their Saudi Arabia Sunni Islamic extremist head chopping UN Human rights, and UN women's Human rights council. You need to get your head screwed on before there is a nuclear war. It's only because the Irish have no principles that the MacDonald case is a serious injustice.

 

[JTF]

Dreamworld

For the past 14 years, the landlord of MacFantasy Island has frequently responded to documented fact with his bizarre "theory without facts" mantra. My murder timeline relies heavily on the physical evidence collected at the crime scene and has remained unchanged since February 2007.

The landlord of MacFantasy Island has had 10 years to formulate a tangible rebuttal to that timeline, but like other MacDonald advocates, he is unable to provide a salient alternative. I referred both Silverglate and Morris to my timeline and asked them to respond in any manner they saw fit.

As I stated in a prior post, the response was a series of cricket noises which indicates that they have at least a basic understanding of the inculpatory nature of the physical evidence. Constructing a hippie home invader timeline based on the physical evidence is an impossible task.

Silverglate knew it. Bost knew it. Morris knew it. The landlord of MacFantasy Island knows it, but he attempts to mask his ignorance by responding with slogans, sound bites and hyperbole.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

 

[Henri McPhee]

For the past 14 years, the landlord of MacFantasy Island has frequently responded to documented fact with his bizarre "theory without facts" mantra. My murder timeline relies heavily on the physical evidence collected at the crime scene and has remained unchanged since February 2007.

Silverglate knew it. Bost knew it. Morris knew it. The landlord of MacFantasy Island knows it, but he attempts to mask his ignorance by responding with slogans, sound bites and hyperbole.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

The problem is that the Stombaugh of the FBI lab 'only said it could be' theory without facts is pure speculation which has no supporting evidence. People are convicted on FACTS and EVIDENCE, not on opinions by a hair and fiber man from the FBI lab, like Stombaugh.

No reasonable person can say beyond reasonable doubt that Stombaugh's opinions are scientifically reliable, or from good old Bill Ivory of the Army CID.

This is part of what Stombaugh said about the matter at the Grand Jury in 1975. Would you say there was any absolute certainty about this, or any certainty at all to put a man into prison for the rest of his life? It's manufactured and fabricated evidence:

www.thejeffreymacdonaldcase.com/html/gj-1975-01-15-stombaugh.html

A Of course, we can only go by the facts we know, some of which I have presented to you. These are known. Some events, I guess, we'll never know, but it would appear to me that the fight started in here, possibly over the argument about the child wetting the bed. I wouldn't know. (Witness points to master bedroom.)

I believe Dr. MacDonald probably struck his wife in the face with a fist, knocked her down. This would cause the blood to start flowing. She probably had a bloody nose, and through a struggle there, is where the blood got onto his pajama top, on the side up here before it was torn. This group A blood.

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Edited, breach of rule 4.

I think this was in the proximity of this club in the utility room, and I think she grabbed this and attacked Jeff with this thing, possibly causing the little cut. The report said he had a cut in his left abdomen, wasn't it?

 

[Henri McPhee]

For the past 14 years, the landlord of MacFantasy Island has frequently responded to documented fact with his bizarre "theory without facts" mantra. My murder timeline relies heavily on the physical evidence collected at the crime scene and has remained unchanged since February 2007.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

If you believe that then you believe anything. It's absurdly credulous. What makes you think Colette hit her husband Jeff with a hairbrush?

From JTF's murder timeline:

TOPIC: Murder Timeline

The following timeline is my interpretation of what the physical evidence demonstrated in this case:

In the early morning hours of February 17, 1970, Colette and Jeffrey MacDonald get into a heated argument in the master bedroom.* The verbal confrontation escalates and MacDonald punches Colette in the face.* Colette grabs a hairbrush and uses it to strike her husband over the left eye.* The area over MacDonald's left eye begins to bruise and swell.* Colette then touches her bloody face with her hand, unaware that her husband's anger was about to turn into blind rage.* Instinctively, she reaches out and grabs her husband's pajama top by the yoke or front portion of the top and as they grapple, some of the blood from Colette's face spatters on her husband's pajama top.

 

[desmirelle]

If you believe that MacDonald then you believe anything. It's I'm absurdly credulous. What makes you think Colette hit her husband Jeff with a hairbrush?

From JTF's murder timeline:

TOPIC: Murder Timeline

The following timeline is my interpretation of what the physical evidence demonstrated in this case:

FITY

And, Henwudge, you answered your own question, but I'll connect the dots for you: He thinks Colette his her husband Jeff with a hairbrush because it's his interpretation of the physical evidence.

 

[byn63]

and he believes Colette hit inmate with her hairbrush because the evidence shows:

Colette was getting ready for bed, one of her hair yarns was on the bedside table, and I think the other was on the floor....

Colette's hair brush was on the floor near the dresser.....

inmate had a minor ouchie that included a slight abrasion on his forehead believed to have occurred when Colette hit him in the head with her hair brush...

 

[JTF]

Lack Of Independent Thought

Like a mouse to cheese, the landlord of MacFantasy Island AGAIN (e.g., 150th time?) exposes himself as being nothing more than a discussion board attention seeker. No salient rebuttals to documented fact nor any independent thoughts on this or any other true crime case. I could reboot past challenges to the landlord of MacFantasy Island, but his cowardice has always eliminated any hope that he would meet my various challenges.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

 

[Henri McPhee]

and he believes Colette hit inmate with her hairbrush because the evidence shows:

Colette was getting ready for bed, one of her hair yarns was on the bedside table, and I think the other was on the floor....

Colette's hair brush was on the floor near the dresser.....

inmate had a minor ouchie that included a slight abrasion on his forehead believed to have occurred when Colette hit him in the head with her hair brush...

There seems to be confusion about the hairbrushes in the MacDonald case. There is a discussion on that biased yuku forum in 2011 between Bunny and Byn where they say they have looked at all the CID records and they have not been able to work it out for themselves. Rather surprisingly Segal hardly mentions a hairbrush at the MacDonald trial, if at all, and then he got bogged down in endless detail about the pajama top, which was beyond the comprehension of the average juror.

To my mind it's highly conjectural, and full of doubt, that Colette hit Jeff MacDonald with a hairbrush, as Stombaugh of the FBI lab speculated, or lied, or that Colette murdered one of the little girls as Army CID agent Shaw insisted at the Article 32 in 1970.

There is some relevant waffle about this at the MacDonald trial:

www.thejeffreymacdonaldcase.com/html/tt-1979-08-07-stombaugh.html

B E N C H C O N F E R E N C E

MR. SEGAL: Your Honor, we are getting to the point now where the motion that we have made, the memoranda that we have submitted are appropriate. This man is now testifying an to a hypothetical fact for which there is no basis in the record.
Now, every case that I know of, every rule of law that I know says that, you know, when an expert gives an opinion, if it is not based on facts in this case, there is no standing for it. Now, he said, "assume he was this way and assume he was that way" -- well, assuming I could fly around the room, so what. What has that got to do with this case?
There must be a factual foundation for his testimony, Your Honor. I don't understand how we can have him stand here --

THE COURT: The reason I let it stand is because I thought his answer was favorable to you.

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[byn63]

there is no confusion about hairbrushes in this case. Colette's hairbrush was found on the floor of the bedroom. it had Colette's hair in it and at least one synthetic fiber that was matched to one of the numerous hair pieces (not wig) Colette had/wore......

 

[Henri McPhee]

there is no confusion about hairbrushes in this case. Colette's hairbrush was found on the floor of the bedroom. it had Colette's hair in it and at least one synthetic fiber that was matched to one of the numerous hair pieces (not wig) Colette had/wore......

That is highly controversial and it's all mixed up with Malone's manufactured evidence and false testimony.

Blackburn was misleading the judge and jury about MacDonald supposedly saying that MacDonald said the pajama top was ripped or torn in the living room. One juror said after the trial that he convicted because there were supposedly no pajama fibers found in the living room.

The matter was discussed in more detail during the Article 32 proceedings in 1970 with CID agent Shaw:

www.thejeffreymacdonaldcase.com/html/0-1970-07-05-pa32-shaw.html

QUESTIONS BY ATTORNEY EISMAN:
Q Getting back to where you found them in the hall, where in relation to the master bedroom would that have been?
A Well, the master bedroom opens off the east end of the hall. This would have been at the entrance to the living room.
Q According to your information or opinion in this case, nothing occurred in the living room. How would you explain the fact that there was a profusion of fibers at that end?
A That was the hall where there was a profusion of fibers.
Q I thought you said that there were fibers --
A There were fibers, not a profusion. As I understand, a profusion means spread out over a large area.

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[JTF]

Since 1982...

Since inmate was returned to prison in 1982, the ONLY way the worm could turn in this case is the defense presenting physical evidence that SOURCED a KNOWN intruder suspect to the crime scene. The court record demonstrates that the defense has been unable to present a single piece of SOURCED evidence to 11 different appellate court judges. Case closed.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

 

[byn63]

There is nothing misleading about the hairbrush being found in the bedroom OR that at least one of the synthetic fibers found in it matched at least one of Colette's many hair pieces. They were very commonly worn in the late 60s and early 70s just like the floppy hat and knee high boots. It was the "uniform of the day" so to speak. Malone did not manufacture evidence and inmate was convicted long before Malone came into the picture.

It was not misleading for Blackburn to say no pajama fibers were found in the living room because there were no pj fibers found in the living room. NONE ZERO ZIP ZILCH NADA

 

[JTF]

The One Thing That MacDonald Advocates Won't Address

MacDonald advocates studiously avoid addressing several case topics, but if I had to pick THE topic that scares the crap out of them...

In the Summer of 1969, inmate visited his older brother at Fire Island. Jay MacDonald shared a residence with 4 individuals who just happened to match the descriptions of the 4 mythical hippie home invaders. During this same time period, several patrons of the Shortstop Bar witnessed inmate speaking to individuals who matched the descriptions of the New York Four.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com/html/suspects.html

Law enforcement officers arrested Kenneth Barnett, Annette Cullity, Gary Burnett, and Joseph Lee in Suffolk County, New York on May 9, 1970. The Suffolk County Police subsequently contacted CID agent Bennie Hawkins due to the fact that these 4 individuals matched the physical descriptions of the intruder suspects provided by Jeffrey MacDonald. The following is an excerpt from the July 24, 1970 testimony of Bennie Hawkins at the Article 32 hearing:

Somers: Can you describe this group?

Hawkins: Yes, sir, it was a group of four. There were three males and one female in the group. The one male, Negro, approximately 5-9 in height, 170 pounds in weight, black hair, brown eyes. There were two Caucasian males, one of them approximately 5-10 in height with dark brown hair, hazel eyes, of about medium build. The other Caucasian male was approximately 5-6 in height, blond hair, and blue eyes. The female approximately 5-5 to 5-6 in height, 110 pounds in weight. She had blond hair and blue eyes.

Somers: Did you obtain any information about the wearing apparel of these people?

Hawkins: Yes, sir, I did.

Somers: What was that?

Hawkins: They all dressed with the hippie type clothing. They — the colored male was seen wearing an army field jacket or fatigue shirt. The female was known to wear a floppy hat and hip boots.

Somers: Did this group you are speaking about have any connection or association with Captain MacDonald or his family?

Hawkins: They associated with Captain MacDonald's brother.

Segal: That's objected to and move to strike. There's no evidence that Captain MacDonald's brother is involved in this case in any fashion whatsoever. In fact, there's no evidence that he even has a brother, sir.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

 

[Henri McPhee]

That was a lack of careful preparation by Segal. A few months before the MacDonald murders, Jeff MacDonald clobbered his brother Jay's drug dealer in New York. After the MacDonald murders Jeff Macdonald quite reasonably thought the murders might have been some sort of revenge attack involving Jay's pals, and connected to that. Any astute and grim detective would raise his eyebrows on hearing of that information instead of just jumping to conclusions. Mazerolle was born in Maine. Mazerolle came from the New York area and he is now prospering in New Jersey. Mazerolle needs to be closely questioned.

 

[byn63]

henri - your post makes no sense other than Segal didn't carefully prepare for trial. The description inmate gave of the alleged intruders matched Jay's roommates. IF a drug dealer that had gotten beat up by someone retaliated it would not be by killing a pregnant woman and two little girls and leaving the man who did it untouched. How did Allen M get back in the discussions and what the hell difference does it make where he came from??? Allen M WAS IN JAIL THE NIGHT OF THE MURDERS AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN BEYOND ALL DOUBT.