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logger said:
This is just another brilliant move by Trump. It was clearly done to make the left explode. BOOM!
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Your wrong.

Face it, you have no argument. Comey's gone but the scandal continues to grow, and the left is loving it.

BOOM headshot!


Ziggurat said:
If Comey ends up dead, I'll agree with you. Otherwise, this is just silly hyperbole.
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Up until last November I would have agreed with you, but then Trump happened. Hyperbole is fact now...
 
The Big Dog said:
If you ask me, this wild speculation regarding Russia and trump belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.

/hee hee hee!
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Sorry, when 16 domestic and at least 1 foreign law enforcement/intelligence agency agree there is evidence and investigation is warranted, "conspiracy theory" doesn't apply.
 
ChristianProgressive said:
Sorry, when 16 domestic and at least 1 foreign law enforcement/intelligence agency agree there is evidence and investigation is warranted, "conspiracy theory" doesn't apply.
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Those are 16 groups that may be making claims, but they have presented zero evidence. Claims without evidence belong over there.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Oh how hilarious, MSNBC has half the screen showing Comey's motorcade in LA as it goes down the freeway. :rolleyes:
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I wonder what odds the boys in Vegas would give me for a "sudden heart attack" or "accident".

Or that his computer access has already been revoked and his paper files are already being removed? They made sure he was out of town when they pulled this.
 
Meadmaker said:
I disagree about the Russia investigation.

In the right wing media, and in some parts of the left wing media, the Russia investigation is about whether the Russians participated in illegally or improperly rigging an election, and therefore showing that Donald Trump is not the legitimate President. In that sense, your description fits.

However, in the halls of Congress, and for the rest of the voters, the Russia investigation is all about what ties the President of the United States has with Vladmir Putin, or other Russian contacts. Russian influence on the election is a small part of that, but no one who can be taken seriously is suggesting that the Russians somehow stole the election. On the other hand, they did seem to want Donald Trump to be President, and a bunch of people close to Trump seem to have a lot of contact with Russians. That is something that makes people very curious.

I don't know if the (former) FBI director had anything to do with that in any meaningful way, such that his departure would be significant to the investigation. However, I know that the real thrust of any Russian connection has nothing to do with rigging an election, but rather on finding out why they were interested in the first place.
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Count me in here, in this sense:

In a super-close election, there are many factors that tip an outcome. Bush v Gore in Florida was so close, it's possible that if Gore had not taken a lunch break on election eve, that could have changed the outcome.

Trump v Clinton was determined by a small margin in three states. Many factors tipped the election. Clinton's baggage (fair and unfair) tipped it. The overall weakness of her candidacy tipped it. Comey's handling of her email tipped it. Anti-establishment mood of the electorate tipped it. Ignorant voters / suckers tipped it. Lefties who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Clinton tipped it. Misogynists tipped it. And I have little doubt that the drip-drip-drip from wikileaks tipped it.
 
logger said:
By the way, there's nothing to the Russian connection, you were wrong same as all the other leftists. Official after official has said, THERE IS NOTHING!
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No, official after official has said the opposite. at least 16 US and 1 foreign intelligence/LE official at that.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Those are 16 groups that may be making claims, but they have presented zero evidence. Claims without evidence belong over there.
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There is enough evidence that many are now calling for a Special Prosecutor and a Grand Jury has issued subpoenas in Flynn's case.

Rather than dieing down, the Russiagate investigation is heating up.

Your denials remind me of Reagan saying "I still don't believe we sold arms to Iran".

:):):):):)
 
Hercules56 said:
There is enough evidence that many are now calling for a Special Prosecutor and a Grand Jury has issued subpoenas in Flynn's case.

Rather than dieing down, the Russiagate investigation is heating up.

Your denials remind me of Reagan saying "I still don't believe we sold arms to Iran".

:):):):):)
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Until we are presented evidence, these are claims without evidence.
 
varwoche said:
Count me in here, in this sense:

In a super-close election, there are many factors that tip an outcome. Bush v Gore in Florida was so close, it's possible that if Gore had not taken a lunch break on election eve, that could have changed the outcome.

Trump v Clinton was determined by a small margin in three states. Many factors tipped the election. Clinton's baggage (fair and unfair) tipped it. The overall weakness of her candidacy tipped it. Comey's handling of her email tipped it. Anti-establishment mood of the electorate tipped it. Ignorant voters / suckers tipped it. Lefties who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Clinton tipped it. Misogynists tipped it. And I have little doubt that the drip-drip-drip from wikileaks tipped it.
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And the hacking of voter registration databases? The fake/doctored emails? The fact our voting machines are not secure and demonstrably have not been since the mid 2000s? The statistical analyses that show anomalies in pro-Clinton precincts and counties?

There is more than enough evidence to invalidate this so-called election, if not outright declare Clinton the rightful winner.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Except, you know, the complete lack of evidence of any wrongdoing.
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Manafort will be forced to register an an agent of a Foreign Regime.

Flynn violated the Logan Act.

Trump violated The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

And this was all BEFORE Trump became President.

There's nothing there?

Tell that to Nixon. :)
 
BobTheCoward said:
Until we are presented evidence, these are claims without evidence.
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So we can only have an investigation "if there is evidence", but we need the investigation to gather and disclose the evidence in the first place? Circular argument.

The FBI, etc have the evidence already and disclosed it to the government, which is refusing to act on it.
 
ChristianProgressive said:
And the hacking of voter registration databases? The fake/doctored emails? The fact our voting machines are not secure and demonstrably have not been since the mid 2000s? The statistical analyses that show anomalies in pro-Clinton precincts and counties?

There is more than enough evidence to invalidate this so-called election, if not outright declare Clinton the rightful winner.
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I have issues with three of those but I just want to focus on one?

Where does it say you can't have a fair election because a private entity presents doctored documents?
 
ChristianProgressive said:
So we can only have an investigation "if there is evidence", but we need the investigation to gather and disclose the evidence in the first place? Circular argument.

The FBI, etc have the evidence already and disclosed it to the government, which is refusing to act on it.
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The FBI is free to do what it wants. We simply should not accept their opinions without them presenting evidence.
 
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