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Merged Trump Fires Comey....

At this point, I wish but have no expectation that Pence and the cabinet are considering if their loyalties lay with the president or the nation. After tonight, loyalty to Trump is a betrayal of the country.
 
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If Trump is smart, he will Tweet that they wanted to fire Comey early on due to his press conference in March but felt it might look political. But his bad testimony on Thursday convinced them he had to go.

But Trump is a moron and will NOT say something like this.

He will say something more stupid, and do more stupid things, and make this firing look like part of a cover up and a Stalinist Purge.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
Protip: run everything Cain says through a high-gain sarcasm filter.
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I certainly hope you are correct. Even if he is, though, a lot of people are going to say that or are saying that all over the place in the US who are not being sarcastic. I am repeatecly astonished at just how anti-democratic (small D) a large part of the nation has become.
 
Here's the problem with lending too much credence to the Deputy Attorney General's letter: There's no way he wrote it on his own hook. At best, he was asked if he thought the FBI Director should be replaced and, if so, to put his thoughts in a memo. He could also have been instructed to provide a memo with a summary of good reasons the FBI Director should be fired.

The bottom line is that it is not something any sub-cabinet official would offer on their own.
 
Brainster said:
A healthy dose of skepticism strikes me as in order here, but there is far too much cynicism on display. Yes, my BS alarm goes off when it is claimed that the reason for Comey's firing is that he was unfair to Clinton. Is it possible? Yeah, I think Comey got too far out on a weak branch when he tried to satisfy both sides with his "Hillary was reckless but not negligent," formulation on the email server prosecution.

But to jump from that to "this is all about the Russia investigation," is not skepticism, but cynicism. The Russia investigation is going nowhere, for the simple reason that it's a ridiculous attempt at a Hail Mary after time has expired. Functionally it's nothing more than 9-11 Truth or Obama Birtherism was: a desperate attempt to deny the otherwise obvious legitimacy of the current president.
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I disagree about the Russia investigation.

In the right wing media, and in some parts of the left wing media, the Russia investigation is about whether the Russians participated in illegally or improperly rigging an election, and therefore showing that Donald Trump is not the legitimate President. In that sense, your description fits.

However, in the halls of Congress, and for the rest of the voters, the Russia investigation is all about what ties the President of the United States has with Vladmir Putin, or other Russian contacts. Russian influence on the election is a small part of that, but no one who can be taken seriously is suggesting that the Russians somehow stole the election. On the other hand, they did seem to want Donald Trump to be President, and a bunch of people close to Trump seem to have a lot of contact with Russians. That is something that makes people very curious.

I don't know if the (former) FBI director had anything to do with that in any meaningful way, such that his departure would be significant to the investigation. However, I know that the real thrust of any Russian connection has nothing to do with rigging an election, but rather on finding out why they were interested in the first place.
 
Trump clearly decided that the possibility of this looking like a Stalinist Purge in order to hurt the investigation was a lesser evil, compared to Comey finding bad **** on Trump.

Trump assumed he can control the Justice Department and intimidate them into ending the investigation, or stearing away from Trump.

Or he will fire everyone he thinks might want to go there.

But it is TRUMP, who will get booted.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Another of my predictions. Trump appoints an FBI director with the goal of quashing the Russia investigation. The FBI rank and file revolt and we start seeing a slew of whistle blowing leaks.
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Cue Deep Throat the Second.

Still, the chances of something very nasty happening have jumped sharply with this action. With the FBI now out of the way, Congress complicit with the regime, and the media sidelined every avenue of removing the regime via legal/legislative process seems all but gone.
 
Found this on another website:

Employees fired by Trump:

Sally Yates
Preet Bharara
James Comey

Employees investigating Trump:

Sally Yates
Preet Bharara
James Comey​
 
From a Slashdot comment:
Employees fired by Trump:

Sally Yates
Preet Bharara
James Comey

Employees investigating Trump:

Sally Yates
Preet Bharara
James Comey
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[ETA] Damned ninjas.
 
Meadmaker said:
I disagree about the Russia investigation.

In the right wing media, and in some parts of the left wing media, the Russia investigation is about whether the Russians participated in illegally or improperly rigging an election, and therefore showing that Donald Trump is not the legitimate President. In that sense, your description fits.

However, in the halls of Congress, and for the rest of the voters, the Russia investigation is all about what ties the President of the United States has with Vladmir Putin, or other Russian contacts. Russian influence on the election is a small part of that, but no one who can be taken seriously is suggesting that the Russians somehow stole the election. On the other hand, they did seem to want Donald Trump to be President, and a bunch of people close to Trump seem to have a lot of contact with Russians. That is something that makes people very curious.

I don't know if the (former) FBI director had anything to do with that in any meaningful way, such that his departure would be significant to the investigation. However, I know that the real thrust of any Russian connection has nothing to do with rigging an election, but rather on finding out why they were interested in the first place.
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On the contrary, a whole bunch of people are saying just that: the election was stolen. And those serious claims need a full investigation. This is not some easy to dismiss or easily refute claim like the Birth Certificate.

16 domesticand at least one foreign intelligence and//or law enforcement agency has said there is credible evidence that Russian operatives influenced the outcome of the election. This information has been corroborated by several independent media outlets.

GIven the supreme importance of guaranteeing power in our government is ONLY transferred by a demonstrably clean vote the Usurper's removal of the only remaining gov't official with both the will and the necessary power to get to the bottom of this is damning.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Using the Clinton excuse is being called cynical by a pundit on MSNBC.
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Lets take a look at what NBC was saying this morning about Comey?

FBI Director James Comey grossly overstated to Congress the number of emails Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin forwarded to husband Anthony Weiner while working at the State Department, the FBI said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.
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lolz
 
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