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Yes and??? The F35 boondogle is a major part of that as well. Those inexpensive new high tech planes were supposed to replace all those outdated ones. Just didn't work out that way.


On the contrary, with new technology, there are usually problems associated with new Air Force aircraft that are eventually worked out with modifications under the TCTO system. Even new civilian airliners undergo such modifications over time.


It is what the military wanted when they voted for him.


In that case, it is about time.
 
Believe me, the military was so seriously underfunded, that there were units in Afghanistan that had to cut back on breakfast items and flight crews who were unable to replace their worn flight suits due to lack of money, not to mention that flight training was seriously cut back as well. Other services for military personnel were cut back and not only had I had difficulty ordering safety gloves, but difficulty receiving replacement parts for aircraft as well, so what we did, we took perfectly good airplanes and used them to cannibalize parts in order to keep other aircraft flying.

Again, was it underfunded, or were billions and billions of dollars being wasted on pointless boondoggles ? The US spends more than the next 'n' countries on Earth put together on their military, so I find it difficult to believe that it's underfunded.

OTOH I can believe that there are plenty of examples of expensive pieces of the wrong kind of kit.
 
Again, was it underfunded, or were billions and billions of dollars being wasted on pointless boondoggles ?


Let's just say that much of what we have was well-spent.


...The US spends more than the next 'n' countries on Earth put together on their military, so I find it difficult to believe that it's underfunded.


Ever wondered why other countries depend on the United States? However, Trump is the wrong leader for America in that regard.
 
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Even if much of it is well spent, that means that tens or hundreds of billions annually are not well spent - that'd buy a lot of breakfast items or gloves.

No, do tell......


Don't tell that to DoD employees, DoD contractors and military personnel. They may disagree with you.
 
Trump seems like an opportunist and pragmatist so far. He's working his poll numbers.

Look how he turned the Establishment and legacy media around, with just a few dozen missiles. If he takes out North Korea, there are going to be some soaked panties.

One of the things I really like is delegation. The Congress delegated the war making power to the President. This president, a businessman, delegated it to his generals.

I just hope it doesn't stop there. The Generals delegate to the Colonels, who delegate it to the Majors, and down through the Lieutenants and Sergeants - right to where it really belongs: with each serviceman.

You just can't have a Congressional debate when you got a slope or brownie right in front of you that needs a good killing, raping, or burning out. And anyway these are not wars. They are police actions, anti-terrorism, or international alphabet-soup resolution enforcement.

Trump won't need his base from the last election to win the next one. He is going to have the Establishment and legacy media behind him. We'll "win" some hollow victories by finishing off the leveling of Mosul and then Raqqa at a staggering human cost, especially refugees and disease/malnutrition.

Yemen, boy does that look great! Imminent starvation for millions while we arm and assist Saudi Arabia in that mayhem. Afghanistan - bigger bombs! So what's not to be thrilled about for the Establishment and Military Industrial/Security complex?

Something I really wonder about now is his campaign platform against fighting these wars and not taking the oil. Well, on that logic if Trump continues fighting these wars am I to infer he's going to take the oil in Eastern Syria, Anbar of Iraq, and etc.?

Seems to me he got elected by being the "less war" candidate. But for this comment about seizing the oil he took no heat from the either the Establishment nor his populist base. What if he was serious?

This is wrong-headed for creating a reason for war that should not be in place: naked theft. A full-on gangster nation.

Regardless, he's proven far to cavalier about war. This was the whole reason for putting the war-making power with congress. He had an infatuation with special ops teams like the Seals that quickly proved naive, but he didn't learn from it apparently. That MOAB was a loud dud insofar as moving events in Afghanistan/Pakistan. Leveling Mosul to save it is every bit as futile as the Viet Nam war leveling of SE Asia.

Candidate Trump liked Wikileaks but President Trump is fine with jailing Assange. Looks like a Bill of Goods to me.
 
Don't tell that to DoD employees, DoD contractors and military personnel. They may disagree with you.

Exactly they make their money making things that serve no purpose other than to send pork to the right region. That is what is most important in defense spending after all.
 
As a defense worker, I fully agree that billions per year are wasted on useless defense programs.


Then, you should be familiar with programs to encourage employees to identify and report fraud, waste, abuse. Have you submitted any such reports?
 
Trump seems like an opportunist and pragmatist so far. He's working his poll numbers.

Look how he turned the Establishment and legacy media around, with just a few dozen missiles. If he takes out North Korea, there are going to be some soaked panties.

One of the things I really like is delegation. The Congress delegated the war making power to the President. This president, a businessman, delegated it to his generals.

I just hope it doesn't stop there. The Generals delegate to the Colonels, who delegate it to the Majors, and down through the Lieutenants and Sergeants - right to where it really belongs: with each serviceman.

You just can't have a Congressional debate when you got a slope or brownie right in front of you that needs a good killing, raping, or burning out. And anyway these are not wars. They are police actions, anti-terrorism, or international alphabet-soup resolution enforcement.

Trump won't need his base from the last election to win the next one. He is going to have the Establishment and legacy media behind him. We'll "win" some hollow victories by finishing off the leveling of Mosul and then Raqqa at a staggering human cost, especially refugees and disease/malnutrition.

Yemen, boy does that look great! Imminent starvation for millions while we arm and assist Saudi Arabia in that mayhem. Afghanistan - bigger bombs! So what's not to be thrilled about for the Establishment and Military Industrial/Security complex?

Something I really wonder about now is his campaign platform against fighting these wars and not taking the oil. Well, on that logic if Trump continues fighting these wars am I to infer he's going to take the oil in Eastern Syria, Anbar of Iraq, and etc.?

Seems to me he got elected by being the "less war" candidate. But for this comment about seizing the oil he took no heat from the either the Establishment nor his populist base. What if he was serious?

This is wrong-headed for creating a reason for war that should not be in place: naked theft. A full-on gangster nation.

Regardless, he's proven far to cavalier about war. This was the whole reason for putting the war-making power with congress. He had an infatuation with special ops teams like the Seals that quickly proved naive, but he didn't learn from it apparently. That MOAB was a loud dud insofar as moving events in Afghanistan/Pakistan. Leveling Mosul to save it is every bit as futile as the Viet Nam war leveling of SE Asia.

Candidate Trump liked Wikileaks but President Trump is fine with jailing Assange. Looks like a Bill of Goods to me.


Trump is a snake oil salesman who has managed to dupe a number of people to vote for him.
 
So you are pro pork even if it costs you your gloves? We are going to have to seriously raise taxes to cover all this pork now.


Don't be silly.
We'll need to throw some major tax breaks to the corporate heads of the defense contractors and suppliers... which will encourage them to streamline and "trickle down" the benifits throughout the population.

After all... that's the core of the new healthcare bill. :rolleyes:
 
So you are pro pork even if it costs you your gloves? We are going to have to seriously raise taxes to cover all this pork now.


I am not pro pork. However, there are programs that DoD personnel and contractor use to report abuses and waste, but what I am saying is that without proper equipment, safety gear and spare parts, don't expect anything to get done. There are also benefits to be gained for DoD civilians, DoD contractors and military personnel who can save the government money and I am one of the recipients of such a program.

I might add that high-tech research is not cheap, but it has paid off in the past, the present and will in the future. Case in point:


ONE BOMB KILLS 40 TANKS US Air Force CBU 105 cluster bomb new

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RtNvyemGx0


US Navy To Go Full Star Trek With New Laser Weapons

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/25/us-navy-to-go-full-star-trek-with-new-laser-weapons/


Despite the fact that I am anti-Trump, I support an increase in military spending because I have seen firsthand how the military has become a basket case, financially speaking. I also like to put it in another way:

You don't wait to have an accident to buy insurance. We can also take a look at the latest developments near Alaska as one example.

Air Force intercepts Russian bombers, fighter jets near Alaska

(FOX NEWS) Two Russian Bear bombers — escorted for the first time by a pair of Su-35 “Flanker” fighter jets — entered Alaska’s Air Defense Zone early Thursday morning, U.S. officials told Fox News.

The Russian formation was intercepted by a pair of U.S. Air Force F-22 stealth fighter jets that were already flying a patrol about 50 miles southwest of Chariot, Alaska.

It was the first time the U.S. Air Force has seen advanced Russian Su-35 fighter jets escort Russian Cold War-era bombers near Alaska.

http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/air-forc...fighter-jets-near-alaska/#4u0wPIVC3Gz0kHMC.99


Since the Russians also had a "Mainstay" aircraft in the area during the time of the intercept of the Russian bombers and fighters, it was clear to me what the Russians were up to, and it wasn't for the purpose to look for new fishing grounds for their fishing fleet. I might add, that one of my chapters for which I have led, has ties to the 477th Fighter Group and the 302nd Fighter Squadron, which are based at Joint-Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska. That unit flies the F-22 Raptor has also intercepted Russian aircraft in the past.

The public is largely unaware of what occurs behind closed doors, and another reason why I have stated that you don't wait to have an accident to buy insurance because you have to stay a step ahead of of the competition whose goal is to destroy you along with your government. Another example was made when Russia sent JDAM jammers to Iraq to render our JDAM bombs ineffective, but the Russians were unaware that we tend to place backup measures up our sleeve until needed (your tax dollars @ work). Case in point: we used JDAM bombs to destroy the Russian JDAM jammers because the Russians were unaware of what was up our sleeve and the American people are not familiar with what their tax dollars have been purchasing in regard to high-tech exotic weaponry. The military cannot report every cent it spends for obvious reason because even our adversaries can read English.

As mentioned, such technology is not cheap but it is also essential and I hope that Trump understands that as well. The F-15C is now behind the power curve when compared to today's generation aircraft and will eventually be retired to the boneyard. Just to let you know that we are currently in the stages of research regarding artificial intelligent unmanned jet fighters and bombers and the cost to replace current aircraft replacements with those exotic aircraft of the future won't be cheap either. In fact, I'd submitted an unmanned aerial platform using a laser years ago under a special program and I have noticed that the unmanned surveillance stealth aircraft of today reveal similarities to my original design.

I did not vote for Trump, but I think he understands where I am coming from as far as military spending is concerned and even things as simple as safety gloves are essential for the production of high-tech weaponry.

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Since the Russians also had a "Mainstay" aircraft in the area during the time of the intercept of the Russian bombers and fighters, it was clear to me what the Russians were up to, and it wasn't for the purpose to look for new fishing grounds for their fishing fleet. I might add, that one of my chapters for which I have led, has ties to the 477th Fighter Group and the 302nd Fighter Squadron, which are based at Joint-Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska. That unit flies the F-22 Raptor has also intercepted Russian aircraft in the past.
They seem to have had the situation well in hand. It is, after all, what they're well tooled up for.
 
Can we get back on topic?

Trump has signed an executive order guaranteeing freedom of religion and speech. Which, of course, means exactly the opposite. Fortunately it appears pretty toothless.

I had to look up "Johnson Amendment" to see if it referred to Lyndon B. It does.
 
Don't be silly.
We'll need to throw some major tax breaks to the corporate heads of the defense contractors and suppliers... which will encourage them to streamline and "trickle down" the benifits throughout the population.

After all... that's the core of the new healthcare bill. :rolleyes:

"Trickle down" is :rule10. I learned this when Reagan was in office. The fat cats got rich, everyone else got :rule10.
 
Believe me, <snip>
I don't, by a long shot. That you can cite some anecdotes about poor funding in a very specialized case does not in any way make your general case. The Pentagon is so bloated that an attempt to audit it a few years ago was unsuccessful. Maybe I'll shed a tear when, as just one example, we don't have nearly 1000 military installations in foreign countries.
 
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