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Childlike Empress said:
Find the press conference and read or better see for yourself. Don't accept secondary sources on these issues.
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I gathered all of this verbatim, partly from watching video clips, partly from quotes as reported by various news sources. I'm quite good at looking for the textual evidence supporting media headlines and eager to cross-check that with existing video. That's why I mentioned being skeptical of CNN - their bias is not hard to spot. I stay away from liberal websites because I want a more definitive source and not a bunch of wishful thinking masquerading as news. HuffPo's 99 percent chances of a Hillary win certainly did not do HuffPo (or Clinton) any favors.

I don't like Trump, I wish he had lost, but I do want evenhanded news coverage.
 
Minoosh said:
I gathered all of this verbatim, partly from watching video clips, partly from quotes as reported by various news sources. I'm quite good at looking for the textual evidence supporting media headlines and eager to cross-check that with existing video. That's why I mentioned being skeptical of CNN - their bias is not hard to spot. I stay away from liberal websites because I want a more definitive source and not a bunch of wishful thinking masquerading as news. HuffPo's 99 percent chances of a Hillary win certainly did not do HuffPo (or Clinton) any favors.

I don't like Trump, I wish he had lost, but I do want evenhanded news coverage.
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Ok, I looked it up for you and it is exactly as I remembered it: He said once, at that press conference, "I think is was Russia" followed by a lot of stuff relativating it, and later in the same conference he even said "could have been others also". But the pre$$titutes ran with it screaming to the hills and have ever since, didn't they bring the president to affirm their nonsense? Halfway decent reports sounded differently even back then. Last time he tweeted about the "phony Russia/Trump story" was yesterday. Here's transcript and video.

Teh Donald said:
[...] As far as hacking, I think it was Russia. But I think we also get hacked by other countries and other people. And I — I can say that you know when — when we lost 22 million names and everything else that was hacked recently, they didn’t make a big deal out of that. That was something that was extraordinary. That was probably China.

We had — we had much hacking going on. And one of the things we’re gonna do, we have some of the greatest computer minds anywhere in the world that we’ve assembled. You saw just a sample of it two weeks ago up here where we had the six top people in the world — they were never in the same room together as a group. And we’re gonna put those minds together and we’re going to form a defense. [...]

Within 90 days, we will be coming up with a major report on hacking defense, how do we stop this new phenomena — fairly new phenomena because the United States is hacked by everybody.

That includes Russia and China and everybody — everybody. OK.

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: Go ahead — go ahead.

QUESTION: Mr. President-elect, you said, just now, that you believe Russia indeed was responsible for the hacking of the DNC and Jon Podesta’s e-mails, et cetera.

TRUMP: All right, but you know what, it could have been others also. [...]
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Looking forward to that report, though, should be due by now... ;)
 
Childlike Empress said:
Ok, I looked it up for you ...
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snarksnarksnark

me said:
As far as hacking, "I think it was Russia." Putin "should not be doing it. He won't be doing it. Russia will have much greater respect for our country when I am leading it than when other people have led it. ... he shouldn't have done it"
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The relevant clip

I'm not going to send anyone to a 57-minute video without a very good reason.

As far as his tweets, seriously? You defend their reliability? Where is the Alicia Machado sex tape?

Childlike Empress said:
Looking forward to that report, though, should be due by now... ;)
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Yeah, right. It's on Jared's to-do list.
 
Minoosh said:
snarksnarksnark
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You're welcome. Took me less time to look up the transcript than it took you to write that post about your source criticism.

Minoosh said:
As far as his tweets, seriously? You defend their reliability?
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Your original question was what "convinced" Trump of the Russian hacking. Now that there's the evidence in, do you still think he was/is "convinced"?
 
Well, actually, he did not say that the Russian investigation was NOT a part of it. He said he was "not referring specifically to the Russia investigation, but rather the totality of challenges the President is currently facing."

Arguably the Russian investigation is a part of that totality. Time will tell.
 
Cabbage said:
Well, actually, he did not say that the Russian investigation was NOT a part of it. He said he was "not referring specifically to the Russia investigation, but rather the totality of challenges the President is currently facing."

Arguably the Russian investigation is a part of that totality. Time will tell.
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Yes but Feinstein says there is NOTHING! ;)
 
skyeagle409 said:
Russia interfered in the election and Russia was one of the reasons why I had to change my government passwords on a regular basis.
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Paranoia paradise.

Grass is green, puke is green, therefore grass is puke.
 
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skyeagle409 said:
Russia interfered in the election and Russia was one of the reasons why I had to change my government passwords on a regular basis.
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Lol

They interfered by giving the voting public much needed information?

That exposed madam Clinton as a moron?
 
Last minute attack on Macron and no word from The Donald. It's the kind of thing you would expect the cheif of Team America World Police to have plenty to say about but his own election history puts him in a tres embarass place.
 
Sideroxylon said:
Last minute attack on Macron and no word from The Donald. It's the kind of thing you would expect the cheif of Team America World Police to have plenty to say about but his own election history puts him in a tres embarass place.
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Why say anything when your enemy is hanging himself?
 
So being hacked and having real and possibly fake documents served up on election eve is hanging yourself?
 
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